Shooting at CT Elementary School. WTF AMERICA?!

[The Good Reverend Roger]

How about swimming pools? What's your stance on those?

Each day in the United States, nine people drown.

Drowning is the second leading cause of accidental injury-related death among children ages 1 to 14.

Drowning is the leading cause of accidental injury-related death among children ages 1 to 4.

[Faust]

I don't support legal sale of them because I see no necessity of use for them, and believe the few cases such as hunting and the like do not outweigh the deaths caused by them.

By that standard, we should outlaw ladders, too.

Misuse of ladders could admittedly be used to kill 30 people in a short space of time, Though outside of a Benny hill sketch would not prove efficient or easy, that's what guns are for.

[AFK]

Also RWHN, automatic.
You keep using that word.
I do not think it means what you think it means.

To wit, an automatic firearm is one that will continuously discharge while the trigger is held down. Which is not what is commonly available to the citizens of the US, nor is it the type that that majority of "assault" rifles are. This includes military rifles.

Shoosh.  He's an expert on this.  Fully automatic, semi automatic, what's the difference?

Get rid of them both, fine by me.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I keep wanting to come back to the "Afghanistan" thing, because that's not, actually, what I had in mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:School_bombings

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I don't support legal sale of them because I see no necessity of use for them, and believe the few cases such as hunting and the like do not outweigh the deaths caused by them.

By that standard, we should outlaw ladders, too.

Misuse of ladders could admittedly be used to kill 30 people in a short space of time, Though outside of a Benny hill sketch would not prove efficient or easy, that's what guns are for.

So it's not the number of deaths, but the speed at which they occur?

[AFK]

How about swimming pools? What's your stance on those?

Each day in the United States, nine people drown.

Drowning is the second leading cause of accidental injury-related death among children ages 1 to 14.

Drowning is the leading cause of accidental injury-related death among children ages 1 to 4.

Accidental is a key word there.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Also RWHN, automatic.
You keep using that word.
I do not think it means what you think it means.

To wit, an automatic firearm is one that will continuously discharge while the trigger is held down. Which is not what is commonly available to the citizens of the US, nor is it the type that that majority of "assault" rifles are. This includes military rifles.

Shoosh.  He's an expert on this.  Fully automatic, semi automatic, what's the difference?

Get rid of them both, fine by me.

No.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

How about swimming pools? What's your stance on those?

Each day in the United States, nine people drown.

Drowning is the second leading cause of accidental injury-related death among children ages 1 to 14.

Drowning is the leading cause of accidental injury-related death among children ages 1 to 4.

Accidental is a key word there.

Which is different than intentional.  You get less dead.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I keep wanting to come back to the "Afghanistan" thing, because that's not, actually, what I had in mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:School_bombings

Didn't we used to firebomb churches & schools?

Good thing nobody got shot, though.

[AFK]

Also RWHN, automatic.
You keep using that word.
I do not think it means what you think it means.

To wit, an automatic firearm is one that will continuously discharge while the trigger is held down. Which is not what is commonly available to the citizens of the US, nor is it the type that that majority of "assault" rifles are. This includes military rifles.

Shoosh.  He's an expert on this.  Fully automatic, semi automatic, what's the difference?

Get rid of them both, fine by me.

No.

Don't worry, we happen to have a complete puss of a President right now so it will never happen anyway.

[Pæs]

How about swimming pools? What's your stance on those?

Each day in the United States, nine people drown.

Drowning is the second leading cause of accidental injury-related death among children ages 1 to 14.

Drowning is the leading cause of accidental injury-related death among children ages 1 to 4.

Accidental is a key word there.

Which is different than intentional.  You get less dead.

And the intent wasn't raised during the discussion of automobile deaths because nobody had decided it was part of the criteria for acceptable deaths yet.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

How about swimming pools? What's your stance on those?

Each day in the United States, nine people drown.

Drowning is the second leading cause of accidental injury-related death among children ages 1 to 14.

Drowning is the leading cause of accidental injury-related death among children ages 1 to 4.

The odds of a child drowning while playing at a house with a pool are something like 500 times greater than the odds of a child being shot while playing at a house with a gun.

I can't remember the exact statistic and I don't feel like looking it up.

[Don Coyote]

Also RWHN, automatic.
You keep using that word.
I do not think it means what you think it means.

To wit, an automatic firearm is one that will continuously discharge while the trigger is held down. Which is not what is commonly available to the citizens of the US, nor is it the type that that majority of "assault" rifles are. This includes military rifles.

Shoosh.  He's an expert on this.  Fully automatic, semi automatic, what's the difference?

Get rid of them both, fine by me.

Ok, sure. I am sure I, or anyone, could get the rate of fire of a bolt action rifle up enough to kill that many of suprised noncombatants.

By the way. A bolt action rifle only chambers a round when the bolt is moved back by hand. Completely user operated.

[AFK]

How about swimming pools? What's your stance on those?

Each day in the United States, nine people drown.

Drowning is the second leading cause of accidental injury-related death among children ages 1 to 14.

Drowning is the leading cause of accidental injury-related death among children ages 1 to 4.

Accidental is a key word there.

Which is different than intentional.  You get less dead.

One person accidentally drowning in a pool kills less little kids than an unhinged 20 year old with a Bushmaster, yes.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Also RWHN, automatic.
You keep using that word.
I do not think it means what you think it means.

To wit, an automatic firearm is one that will continuously discharge while the trigger is held down. Which is not what is commonly available to the citizens of the US, nor is it the type that that majority of "assault" rifles are. This includes military rifles.

Shoosh.  He's an expert on this.  Fully automatic, semi automatic, what's the difference?

Get rid of them both, fine by me.

No.

Don't worry, we happen to have a complete puss of a President right now so it will never happen anyway.

Won't happen, period.  It's too ingrained in American culture.  No politician who supports banning semi-automatic weapons of any kind has a chance.