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Started by LMNO, April 15, 2013, 08:19:14 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Also, and I don't mean to sound dickish, Pixie, but I don't need to be told about psychological trauma.

I have a nodding acquaintance with it.
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Nephew Twiddleton

Back in somerville. Might just be my perception but everything seems really quiet.
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Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 16, 2013, 03:57:51 AM
This country is lucky enough not to easily know what horrific trauma looks like.

Next time, ask a Palastinian.


Or, pixie.

Eh, Was just what came to mind. UK's no Palestine, even back then.. It's just with 30 years of domestic terrorism, we kind of became used to it, Southampton had an incident once.


Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 16, 2013, 04:03:03 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 16, 2013, 03:57:51 AM
This country is lucky enough not to easily know what horrific trauma looks like.

Next time, ask a Palastinian.


Or, pixie.

Or some dumb grunt Iraqi, circa Desert Storm, starved half to death, then blown to bits.  <--- Dead, doesn't care.

Or, you know, if you visit a doll factory.  <--- Alive, glad to be alive.  Horrors and all.

Like I said, if you live through it, that's a bonus.  If you come away from it, win or lose, psychologically unscathed, you were a sociopath to begin with.

Point.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 16, 2013, 04:06:55 AM
Also, and I don't mean to sound dickish, Pixie, but I don't need to be told about psychological trauma.

I have a nodding acquaintance with it.

Fair enough. I was thinking that there's more than a physical impact, and those numbers won't really ever be known.

I'm tired, and not really filtering any thoughts.

LMNO

Didn't mean to exclude you from horrific trauma, Roger. Lord knows you've had your share-- and you've helped sheltered middle class guys like me* gain some passing semblance of what the fuck is going on out there, where the rubber meets the road and steel meets flesh. You've elevated the com/sym/empathic functionality in me, and have helped a lot. In a way, thank you for your service, and your interpretation of that to help others. I'm not sure how much sense I'm making.





*This isn't a joke. I really am very, very sheltered.

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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 16, 2013, 04:05:36 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 16, 2013, 04:03:50 AM

Anarchists don't do this kind of thing, they haven't since the depression.  And even if they still did a marathon is not a target they'd go for.  It'd be something connected to power.

This.

I'm betting right wing nutjob.

What makes this a more attractive target for a right winger than for an anarchist?

I mean, wouldn't a righty's ideology make this action seem loathsome for being an attack against his countrymen?  It doesnt really jive with any of the right propaganda ive ever read...barring ueber-nuts groups like white nationalists (ok no euphemisms...nazis) or abortion-bombers...

My point is, a crazy anarchist could be equally responsible as a crazy right-winger...both would be attacking a not-so-ideal target if we go off of their politics, and both would share the aspect of crazy...

Anna Mae Bollocks

Yeah. I don't normally think of myself as protected or insulated from things.
But I am. I didn't even know what I was looking at.
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Pope Pixie Pickle

Quote from: Von Zwietracht on April 16, 2013, 04:16:44 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 16, 2013, 04:05:36 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 16, 2013, 04:03:50 AM

Anarchists don't do this kind of thing, they haven't since the depression.  And even if they still did a marathon is not a target they'd go for.  It'd be something connected to power.

This.

I'm betting right wing nutjob.

What makes this a more attractive target for a right winger than for an anarchist?

I mean, wouldn't a righty's ideology make this action seem loathsome for being an attack against his countrymen?  It doesnt really jive with any of the right propaganda ive ever read...barring ueber-nuts groups like white nationalists (ok no euphemisms...nazis) or abortion-bombers...

My point is, a crazy anarchist could be equally responsible as a crazy right-winger...both would be attacking a not-so-ideal target if we go off of their politics, and both would share the aspect of crazy...

Eh, personally, theorising at this stage seems premature.

Pope Pixie Pickle

Quote from: stelz on April 16, 2013, 04:17:46 AM
Yeah. I don't normally think of myself as protected or insulated from things.
But I am. I didn't even know what I was looking at.

To be honest, I've purposefully avoided any graphic images. I don't think I need to see fucked up to know it's fukced up.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Von Zwietracht on April 16, 2013, 04:16:44 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 16, 2013, 04:05:36 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 16, 2013, 04:03:50 AM

Anarchists don't do this kind of thing, they haven't since the depression.  And even if they still did a marathon is not a target they'd go for.  It'd be something connected to power.

This.

I'm betting right wing nutjob.

What makes this a more attractive target for a right winger than for an anarchist?

I mean, wouldn't a righty's ideology make this action seem loathsome for being an attack against his countrymen?

1.  An anarchist wouldn't go after health nuts, he or she would target a bank or a hedge fund office.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Pergamos

Quote from: Von Zwietracht on April 16, 2013, 04:16:44 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 16, 2013, 04:05:36 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 16, 2013, 04:03:50 AM

Anarchists don't do this kind of thing, they haven't since the depression.  And even if they still did a marathon is not a target they'd go for.  It'd be something connected to power.

This.

I'm betting right wing nutjob.

What makes this a more attractive target for a right winger than for an anarchist?

I mean, wouldn't a righty's ideology make this action seem loathsome for being an attack against his countrymen?  It doesnt really jive with any of the right propaganda ive ever read...barring ueber-nuts groups like white nationalists (ok no euphemisms...nazis) or abortion-bombers...

My point is, a crazy anarchist could be equally responsible as a crazy right-winger...both would be attacking a not-so-ideal target if we go off of their politics, and both would share the aspect of crazy...

A few things.  One is Anarchists don't bomb any longer, they tried it, it didn't work, and they don't do it.  If one went off the rails and decided to bomb something they'd at least have picked a police station or a local bank, not a street at the end of a marathon which is actually more work than the previous two due to heightened security.

As far as right winger we can kind of assume the person is uber nuts, since they're bombing people, so your "barring ueber nuts" bit doesn't really make sense.  Unless bombing is mainstream in the right wing.  Also, those people aren't his country men, they are unamerican liberal homo loving socialists who his country would be better off without.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Von Zwietracht on April 16, 2013, 04:16:44 AM

My point is, a crazy anarchist could be equally responsible as a crazy right-winger...both would be attacking a not-so-ideal target if we go off of their politics, and both would share the aspect of crazy...

The ideology affects nothing but the choice of targets.  A crazy asshole is a crazy asshole, and it doesn't matter what flag they're waving or cause they're espousing.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 16, 2013, 04:15:49 AM
Didn't mean to exclude you from horrific trauma, Roger. Lord knows you've had your share-- and you've helped sheltered middle class guys like me* gain some passing semblance of what the fuck is going on out there, where the rubber meets the road and steel meets flesh. You've elevated the com/sym/empathic functionality in me, and have helped a lot. In a way, thank you for your service, and your interpretation of that to help others. I'm not sure how much sense I'm making.





*This isn't a joke. I really am very, very sheltered.

Good.  If there's ONE excuse for civilization, it's that a portion of the population gets to live with a mostly-clean skull.

That portion of the population is worth having around.  Murderers aren't.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Pixie on April 16, 2013, 04:20:52 AM
Quote from: stelz on April 16, 2013, 04:17:46 AM
Yeah. I don't normally think of myself as protected or insulated from things.
But I am. I didn't even know what I was looking at.

To be honest, I've purposefully avoided any graphic images. I don't think I need to see fucked up to know it's fukced up.

Stay off of facebook. It was on my news feed.
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

Nephew Twiddleton

Im avoiding speculation until further info is available. Because heres what we know. Two bombs went off. Two bombs didnt. Three people died. One hundred and thirty are injured. People are are spreading rumors about a suspect that the police have said is nonsense. No one has claimed responsibility. So. I dont know enough to make any guesses.
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Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

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LMNO

Well said, Twid. And yeah, the FB images are kind of fucked.