Things go boom

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Perhaps thousands of police authorities were outwitted by this doofus for an entire day.

Which raises a good question: why wasn't Boston PD's communications encrypted?  Given they found him only a block outside the stop-and-search zone, it seems very likely he was listening in on their radio calls.  You know, like most of the internet was.

Don't private scanner owners sometimes help law enforcement with intel?  Maybe this was a situation where having it public was, in their mind, was in their best interest?

Well, by the way they were channel hopping like crazy, and then released statements directly telling people NOT to listen, I'd say they definitely didn't wan't people to "help with intel".

Isn't some of their shit designed to channel hop automatically anyway? I think at one time they did that to make it harder to follow, and then pricier scanners came out that could get that, measure-countermeasure, etc. I quit keeping up with it. 

[Suu]

Perhaps thousands of police authorities were outwitted by this doofus for an entire day.

Which raises a good question: why wasn't Boston PD's communications encrypted?  Given they found him only a block outside the stop-and-search zone, it seems very likely he was listening in on their radio calls.  You know, like most of the internet was.

Don't private scanner owners sometimes help law enforcement with intel?  Maybe this was a situation where having it public was, in their mind, was in their best interest?

Well, by the way they were channel hopping like crazy, and then released statements directly telling people NOT to listen, I'd say they definitely didn't wan't people to "help with intel".

There was an issue when people started posting maps and Google Earth pics on social media of the location of everything. I think the last thing they needed was for people to step in and try to "help".

[Banned User 1]

Perhaps thousands of police authorities were outwitted by this doofus for an entire day.

Which raises a good question: why wasn't Boston PD's communications encrypted?  Given they found him only a block outside the stop-and-search zone, it seems very likely he was listening in on their radio calls.  You know, like most of the internet was.

Don't private scanner owners sometimes help law enforcement with intel?  Maybe this was a situation where having it public was, in their mind, was in their best interest?

Well, by the way they were channel hopping like crazy, and then released statements directly telling people NOT to listen, I'd say they definitely didn't wan't people to "help with intel".

Isn't some of their shit designed to channel hop automatically anyway? I think at one time they did that to make it harder to follow, and then pricier scanners came out that could get that, measure-countermeasure, etc. I quit keeping up with it. 

They were manually changing channels...

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Perhaps thousands of police authorities were outwitted by this doofus for an entire day.

Which raises a good question: why wasn't Boston PD's communications encrypted?  Given they found him only a block outside the stop-and-search zone, it seems very likely he was listening in on their radio calls.  You know, like most of the internet was.

Don't private scanner owners sometimes help law enforcement with intel?  Maybe this was a situation where having it public was, in their mind, was in their best interest?

Well, by the way they were channel hopping like crazy, and then released statements directly telling people NOT to listen, I'd say they definitely didn't wan't people to "help with intel".

Isn't some of their shit designed to channel hop automatically anyway? I think at one time they did that to make it harder to follow, and then pricier scanners came out that could get that, measure-countermeasure, etc. I quit keeping up with it. 

They were manually changing channels...

A lot of the salient bits were streamable on the WCBV website.

[Cain]

This whole thing did seem to pop off pretty quick too...

I mean, it went from a "routine" 7-11 robbery to "OMG it's THEM" pretty quickly. Perhaps they didn't have time to set up encrypted comms.

Maybe not initially, sure.  But 12 hours later? 

[Cain]

Perhaps thousands of police authorities were outwitted by this doofus for an entire day.

Which raises a good question: why wasn't Boston PD's communications encrypted?  Given they found him only a block outside the stop-and-search zone, it seems very likely he was listening in on their radio calls.  You know, like most of the internet was.

Don't private scanner owners sometimes help law enforcement with intel?  Maybe this was a situation where having it public was, in their mind, was in their best interest?

Well, by the way they were channel hopping like crazy, and then released statements directly telling people NOT to listen, I'd say they definitely didn't wan't people to "help with intel".

There was an issue when people started posting maps and Google Earth pics on social media of the location of everything. I think the last thing they needed was for people to step in and try to "help".

This was part of the rationale for releasing the pictures.  Because so many innocent people were being fingered by the media and internet at large as potential suspects, there were very real fears that someone was going to get killed.  The hope was releasing the pictures would prevent vigilante revenge attacks and more internet detectives to come up with outlandish theories.

[The Johnny]

hxxp://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/918059.html

Has this been covered in the discussion?

Supposedly Russia warned the FBI since 2011 about the radicalization of Tamerlán Tsarnaev... the FBI even INTERVIEWED several family members in 2011! And a family member says that the FBI counseled Tamerlan for 3 or 5 years.

[Suu]

hxxp://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/918059.html

Has this been covered in the discussion?

Supposedly Russia warned the FBI since 2011 about the radicalization of Tamerlán Tsarnaev... the FBI even INTERVIEWED several family members in 2011! And a family member says that the FBI counseled Tamerlan for 3 or 5 years.

If the vibe I got from the Uncle they interviewed in Maryland means anything, there was a damn good reason why he was not keeping contact with that side of the family.

[The Johnny]

hxxp://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/918059.html

Has this been covered in the discussion?

Supposedly Russia warned the FBI since 2011 about the radicalization of Tamerlán Tsarnaev... the FBI even INTERVIEWED several family members in 2011! And a family member says that the FBI counseled Tamerlan for 3 or 5 years.

If the vibe I got from the Uncle they interviewed in Maryland means anything, there was a damn good reason why he was not keeping contact with that side of the family.

Like seriously, the FBI needs to stop doing their entrapment hijinx to justify their own existance.

[Suu]

There's a guy on Facebook saying that the door to door searches in Watertown involved police confiscating everyone's guns. He said that he heard it "from a friend who saw it first hand."

My kneejerk response was, "That's bullshit. That would assume people in MA were actually allowed to own guns." But I refrained. I'm waiting to see if this goes conspiracy theorist batshit.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

hxxp://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/918059.html

Has this been covered in the discussion?

Supposedly Russia warned the FBI since 2011 about the radicalization of Tamerlán Tsarnaev... the FBI even INTERVIEWED several family members in 2011! And a family member says that the FBI counseled Tamerlan for 3 or 5 years.

If the vibe I got from the Uncle they interviewed in Maryland means anything, there was a damn good reason why he was not keeping contact with that side of the family.

Like seriously, the FBI needs to stop doing their entrapment hijinx to justify their own existance.

FUCKING *SHUDDERS*

[Junkenstein]

hxxp://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/918059.html

Has this been covered in the discussion?

Supposedly Russia warned the FBI since 2011 about the radicalization of Tamerlán Tsarnaev... the FBI even INTERVIEWED several family members in 2011! And a family member says that the FBI counseled Tamerlan for 3 or 5 years.

I wonder what the nature of this "Counselling" was. And indeed, if they knew that they were being "counselled" by the FBI.

That neck injury isn't looking more suspicious at all.

[Junkenstein]

Slightly off topic while waiting for more info:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22244538

Shooting bomb threat on "a website" causes 20+ Dutch schools to be shut down.

By "website" I mean "4chan"

The threat was posted on internet forum 4chan. In English, the writer states: "Tomorrow, I will shoot my Dutch teacher, and as many students as I can."

He or she goes on to say that they will be carrying a 9mm Colt Defender gun and a note "which will explain why I did it".

The threat was picked up by Swiss police during internet checks, Dutch media report.

Yup.

I dread to think of future conclusions made by law enforcement based around 4chan posts. I'm glad my elaborate Art theft is still OK to go ahead though.

[Cain]

hxxp://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/918059.html

Has this been covered in the discussion?

Supposedly Russia warned the FBI since 2011 about the radicalization of Tamerlán Tsarnaev... the FBI even INTERVIEWED several family members in 2011! And a family member says that the FBI counseled Tamerlan for 3 or 5 years.

I've been mentioning it, on and off.

I still want to know exactly how the FSB picked up on the brothers because, well, frankly I don't trust the FSB at all when it comes to the Chechen issue.  And pinning the attack on Chechen Islamism is of huge benefit to the Russian government, as many Western countries have so far refused to treat Chechnya as part of the War on Terror.

But then, I don't trust the FBI either, and their general approach to alienated young Muslims is "approach them undercover and try to get them to take part in a bombing".  So I don't know.

[Cain]

The mother has claimed the FBI fingered Tamerlane as a suspect on Thursday:

Their mother went so far on Sunday to claim that the FBI had contacted her elder son after the deadly bombs exploded at the marathon. If true it would be the first indication that the FBI considered him a suspect before Boston descended into violence on Thursday.

At FBI headquarters in Washington, spokesman Michael Kortan stood by the bureau's public statement of two days ago in which the bureau described a 2011 FBI interview of Tamerlan Tsarnaev. Kortan said the 2011 interview was the only FBI contact with Tamerlan Tsarnaev. The FBI statement from two days ago says that the FBI did not learn of the identity of Tamerlan and his brother until Friday after the gun battle in which Tamerlan was killed.

The mother's claim could not be independently confirmed, and she has made statements in the past that appeared to show a lack of full understanding of what occurred in Boston.

There's a lot of potential reasons for misunderstandings here, but I wanted this to be noted.