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Dream a Little Dream With Me, part II

Started by Doktor Howl, May 30, 2013, 04:55:57 PM

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Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 30, 2013, 09:42:24 PM
Quote from: Cainad on May 30, 2013, 09:41:12 PM
Quote"...The primary failure mode in Afghanistan was the same as the primary failure mode in Iraq:  Our picture of the war is distorted by factors that exist only in the American mind.  We, as a nation, bought our own hype...That Iraq was a war of liberation.  To the Iraqis, it was an invasion by a foreign power.  In Afghanistan, WE are trying to win "hearts and minds", and THEY are angling for control of the income from the heroin trade.  We have our thumb in that, but we refuse to accept it as a primary objective."

I particularly like this bit.

We can't win the war because the enemy isn't fighting the same war.

Fact.  We, as a nation, have done this in every war since the end of the Korean conflict.

"Our thumb in control of the income from the heroin trade in Afghanistan" needs to be on those crying eagle shirts.
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

Doktor Howl

Quote from: stelz on May 30, 2013, 09:49:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 30, 2013, 09:42:24 PM
Quote from: Cainad on May 30, 2013, 09:41:12 PM
Quote"...The primary failure mode in Afghanistan was the same as the primary failure mode in Iraq:  Our picture of the war is distorted by factors that exist only in the American mind.  We, as a nation, bought our own hype...That Iraq was a war of liberation.  To the Iraqis, it was an invasion by a foreign power.  In Afghanistan, WE are trying to win "hearts and minds", and THEY are angling for control of the income from the heroin trade.  We have our thumb in that, but we refuse to accept it as a primary objective."

I particularly like this bit.

We can't win the war because the enemy isn't fighting the same war.

Fact.  We, as a nation, have done this in every war since the end of the Korean conflict.

"Our thumb in control of the income from the heroin trade in Afghanistan" needs to be on those crying eagle shirts.

We had marines guarding poppy fields for warlords.  No shit.
Molon Lube

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 30, 2013, 09:50:11 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 30, 2013, 09:49:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 30, 2013, 09:42:24 PM
Quote from: Cainad on May 30, 2013, 09:41:12 PM
Quote"...The primary failure mode in Afghanistan was the same as the primary failure mode in Iraq:  Our picture of the war is distorted by factors that exist only in the American mind.  We, as a nation, bought our own hype...That Iraq was a war of liberation.  To the Iraqis, it was an invasion by a foreign power.  In Afghanistan, WE are trying to win "hearts and minds", and THEY are angling for control of the income from the heroin trade.  We have our thumb in that, but we refuse to accept it as a primary objective."

I particularly like this bit.

We can't win the war because the enemy isn't fighting the same war.

Fact.  We, as a nation, have done this in every war since the end of the Korean conflict.

"Our thumb in control of the income from the heroin trade in Afghanistan" needs to be on those crying eagle shirts.

We had marines guarding poppy fields for warlords.  No shit.

Yeah. And the CIA has been in the racket for years too.
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division