Things go boom

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Unarmed suspect in custody "attacks" an agent, who is "forced to shoot and kill him".

Considering how useful guns are in hand-to-hand combat, I would say that the possibility that Todashev knew things that the FBI didn't want made public and decided to make sure he never told anyone is a much more probable scenario.

[trippinprincezz13]

If you shoot all the suspects in a case you are bound to get the people responsible. Good job guys.

And! Shortly before his outburst he confessed to another unsolved murde. That wraps that little problem up. Talk about killing two birds with one stone.

[Cain]

More info:

http://m.clickorlando.com/news/fbi-involved-in-fatal-shooting-near-universal-orlando/-/16721250/20249584/-/15quxngz/-/index.html

The FBI said Ibragim Todashev was shot and killed just after midnight at 6022 Peregrine Avenue in the Windhover Apartments near Universal Orlando.

"The agent encountered the suspect while conducting official duties. The suspect is deceased," FBI Special Agent Dave Couvertier told Local 6.

John Miller, the former FBI assistant director who now works for CBS News, said the FBI was trying to re-question Todashev at his apartment when "something went wrong."  Miller said the FBI agent fired shots, but details of the incident have not yet been released and it's not known if Todashev had a gun.

http://www.fbi.gov/boston/press-releases/2013/fbi-boston-divisions-response-to-shooting-incident-in-orlando-florida

The FBI is currently reviewing a shooting incident involving an FBI special agent. Based on preliminary information, the incident occurred in Orlando, Florida during the early morning hours of May 22, 2013. The agent, two Massachusetts State Police troopers, and other law enforcement personnel were interviewing an individual in connection with the Boston Marathon bombing investigation when a violent confrontation was initiated by the individual. During the confrontation, the individual was killed and the agent sustained non-life threatening injuries. As this incident is under review, we have no further details at this time.

Things of note:

He was being interviewed again.  So what changed between the last interview and this one, which resulted in a corpse?

He was at his apartment when being questioned, not at a station or in a holding cell.  What is the standard FBI interview protocol here?  I've tried looking, but found nothing so far.

"Other law enforcement personnel".  Who?  Is that FBI-speak for the spooks of the High Value Interrogation Unit? 

None of this is conclusive of anything, yet.  But it's certainly worth keeping an eye on.

[Junkenstein]

The FBI turning up on your doorstep with a mob in tow would make most people nervous.

Got to wonder if the reason they were there with so many people is the more the merrier to corroborate the story.

Eyewitness accounts are usually iffy and have minor discrepancies (Being generous) but I'll bet the statements from everyone here are almost photocopies.

Crazy outside speculation - Russia's involved somehow.

[Cain]

FBI sources say Ibragim Todashev, a friend of accused Boston Marathon bomber Tamarlen Tsarnaev, was unarmed when he was shot and killed by an FBI agent during questioning at an Orlando apartment last week.

Sources said Todashev might have been lunging toward a sword, but he was not in possession of it.

[...]

Sources said a sword was inside the apartment, but the weapon was moved to the corner of the room before questioning began.

http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/orange-county/sources-ibragim-todashev-was-unarmed-when-fbi-agent-killed-him/-/12978032/20342572/-/i2ok9h/-/index.html

[LMNO]

NOTHING SUSPICIOUS HERE, MOVE ALONG
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[Cain]

I routinely shoot people seven times, including once in the head, after they confess to a triple killing, because I think they might be reaching for a sword.  Safety first.  Dude was clearly dangerous.

Oh, and according to this, all the other law enforcement personnel left the room just before Todashev had suicidal urges involving a sword.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Do they normally kill spooks or no?

[Cain]

Do they normally kill spooks or no?

The FBI does have previous for applying shotgun to face where Muslims are involved.

Also recall FBI training was, for several years, conducted by Christian extremists who painted Islam in a...very unfavourable light.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Do they normally kill spooks or no?

The FBI does have previous for applying shotgun to face where Muslims are involved.

Also recall FBI training was, for several years, conducted by Christian extremists who painted Islam in a...very unfavourable light.

That makes COINTELPRO look like the good old days. 

[Cain]

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/09/fbi-islam-domination/all/

Following months of denials, the FBI is now promising a "comprehensive review of all training and reference materials" after Danger Room revealed a series of Bureau presentations that tarred average Muslims as "radical" and "violent."

But untangling the Islamophobic thread woven into the FBI's counterterrorism training culture won't be easy. In addition to inflammatory seminars which likened Islam to the Death Star and Mohammed to a "cult leader," Danger Room has obtained more material showing just how wide the anti-Islam meme has spread throughout the Bureau.

The FBI library at Quantico currently stacks books from authors who claim that "Islam and democracy are totally incompatible." The Bureau's private intranet recently featured presentations that claimed to demonstrate the "inherently violent nature of Islam," according to multiple sources. Earlier this year, the Bureau's Washington Field Office welcomed a speaker who claimed Islamic law prevents Muslims from being truly loyal Americans. And as recently as last week, the online orientation material for the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Forces included claims that Sunni Islam seeks "domination of the world," according to a law enforcement source.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

That's just...surreal in its level of FUCKED UP.
I mean, these guys have SEEN actual Muslims, right? How do you reconcile people you see every day with a bunch of crap like that?

[Doktor Howl]

That's just...surreal in its level of FUCKED UP.
I mean, these guys have SEEN actual Muslims, right? How do you reconcile people you see every day with a bunch of crap like that?

Ever hear barstool heroes talk about "libruls"?

Does THEIR description connect in any way with actual liberals?

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

That's just...surreal in its level of FUCKED UP.
I mean, these guys have SEEN actual Muslims, right? How do you reconcile people you see every day with a bunch of crap like that?

Ever hear barstool heroes talk about "libruls"?

Does THEIR description connect in any way with actual liberals?

Well yeah, but they're drunk retarded yahoos.
I thought you needed more than a room temperature IQ to get into the FBI.
Guess I was wrong. 

[Cain]

More Obama ricin letter mischief

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57586863/new-possible-ricin-letter-sent-to-obama/

A letter addressed to President Obama that may have been contaminated with the deadly toxin ricin is similar to two ricin-laced letters recently sent to New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, the Secret Service said Thursday.

A screening facility for mail sent to the White House intercepted the recent letter sent to Mr. Obama, Secret Service spokesman Edwin Donovan said. The letter has been turned over to the FBI's joint terrorism task force for testing and investigation.

CBS News correspondent Bob Orr reports that the letter was postmarked from Shreveport, La.

Shreveport was also the postmark for the two contaminated letters sent to Bloomberg in New York and his gun-control group in Washington.