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Internment camps in Greece, wait, what?

Started by Suu, July 01, 2013, 07:05:33 PM

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Suu

Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Doktor Howl

Molon Lube

Cain

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_08/03/2013_486540

QuoteCoalition partner Democratic Left, opposition party SYRIZA and four rehabilitation groups Friday condemned a decision by the Public Order Ministry to transfer 132 drug users rounded up from central Athens streets during a police sweep on Wednesday to a detention center for undocumented migrants in Amygdaleza, northwest of Athens.

In statements released Friday, both political parties accused the Public Order Ministry of conducting a "pogrom" against drugs addicts, while a joint statement by the rehabilitation groups decried the move as a transgression of the "fundamental rights of the weakest members of society."

Essentially, the internment camps used to hold asylum seekers while their status is verified, or before they are deported, are also being used to house other "undesirables" of Greek society.  This isn't entirely surprising, as immigration policing tends to have the least oversight while also having the facilities to effectively remove someone society.

LMNO


Doktor Howl

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 01, 2013, 07:32:18 PM
That's.... That's really fucked up.

That's all the mid-twentieth century you ordered, sir.  All in one neat package, and the all the trains on time!  I mean, we offered other products, but this is what the market demanded!  Frankly, we were a little worried about our market share in 1945, but it seems that you just can't keep a good product down!  And with our easy pay-as-you-go terms, everyone can get a bit of this!  We're here to keep you, the public, satisfied.  Who are we?
Molon Lube

Cain

They're just trying to look after people, LMNO.  Like the article says:

QuoteThe Public Order Ministry said that the drug addicts would be able to receive better medical treatment at the facility

Or to quote a famous historical figure:

Quote from: Heinrich HimmlerProtective Custody is an act of care.

Doktor Howl

HAW HAW!

Concentration camps don't come back because of a few bad guys.  They come back because a hell of a lot of people approve of them, even if they won't say so out loud in front of guests and shit.

I think maybe revising the crime "Crimes against humanity" to "Humanity" might tighten shit up just a bit, cut out some of the legalese.  Because eventually, humans will get sick to their stomach over this shit, and then they'll be looking for someone to hang.  So we might want to get the terms nice and straight now.

And it's not like we here in the USA can really say much NOW, right?  I mean, we stood by while our government made torture an acceptable act and all, so getting all weepy about this seems a little too easy, if you catch my drift.  Something something cleaning your own house, something something.
Molon Lube

Suu

Let's just say, I had to block someone in Facebook when I posted this, because someone went, "I think internment camps for illegal immigrants is a great idea."

Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Suu on July 01, 2013, 07:57:19 PM
Let's just say, I had to block someone in Facebook when I posted this, because someone went, "I think internment camps for illegal immigrants is a great idea."

WHAT I SAY?
TELL ME WHAT I SAY!
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:hammer:
Molon Lube

LMNO

Quote from: Suu on July 01, 2013, 07:57:19 PM
Let's just say, I had to block someone in Facebook when I posted this, because someone went, "I think internment camps for illegal immigrants is a great idea."

What the hell kind of "friends" do you have over there?

Doktor Howl

FACT:  Sheriff Joe won his last election with a margin of 12% not on the promise of an internment camp, but on the reality of one.
Molon Lube

Junkenstein

The striking thing for me about this, is that it's happening in Greece. A decade ago, I would never have thought of this happening there. I read this now and it's more "Wow, shit's still getting worse there".

Given how good the international community is at stopping this kind of shit, I'd bet big that it's going to get a lot worse before it looks even remotely better. Even when the rest of the country is back towards "normal" this shit will linger round for years. The facilities are built. They're providing valuable jobs to the community.

Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Junkenstein on July 01, 2013, 08:07:37 PM
The striking thing for me about this, is that it's happening in Greece. A decade ago, I would never have thought of this happening there. I read this now and it's more "Wow, shit's still getting worse there".

Given how good the international community is at stopping this kind of shit, I'd bet big that it's going to get a lot worse before it looks even remotely better. Even when the rest of the country is back towards "normal" this shit will linger round for years. The facilities are built. They're providing valuable jobs to the community.

Why on Earth would the international community stop this?  They're still busy plundering.
Molon Lube

Suu

Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 01, 2013, 08:02:57 PM
Quote from: Suu on July 01, 2013, 07:57:19 PM
Let's just say, I had to block someone in Facebook when I posted this, because someone went, "I think internment camps for illegal immigrants is a great idea."

WHAT I SAY?
TELL ME WHAT I SAY!
\
:hammer:

I SAY!

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 01, 2013, 08:05:04 PM

What the hell kind of "friends" do you have over there?

The kind that get blocked.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Junkenstein

Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 01, 2013, 08:07:31 PM
FACT:  Sheriff Joe won his last election with a margin of 12% not on the promise of an internment camp, but on the reality of one.

USA leading the way into the future once again. Also a reminder to check who owns this shit, I bet some of it is in private for-profit hands, if not all of it.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.