What did you do with my RWHN?

[Left]

I'm the preacher whipping the hippies out of Houston then Pregamos appeared and fisted me so I stopped.

Dude, you can't stop us hippies, we'll crawl out of the rubble after they nuke this place.

Rolling Stone Cover:

"THE BOMBER:
How a popular, promising student was failed by his family, fell into radical Islam and became a monster."
(There.  Not hard)

...Yes, Fundamentalism makes monsters out of otherwise normal people. 
Better yet, otherwise GOOD, high-minded people...their belief system gets so airtight they wind up with their head up their butt.

They stop doubting, and start BELIEVING...and the shit can hit the fan.  Political Fundamentalisms as well as religious ones...(insert war on drugs here)

[AFK]

Dude, quote what the cover says about him.

The boy "was a bright, energetic young boy who had big dreams and high hopes for his future"

[AFK]

Oh, actually, that was the 8 year old the sack of shit killed.  Martin Richard, someone who's short years were way more deserving of a Rolling Stone cover than the coward who killed him.

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

Oh, actually, that was the 8 year old the sack of shit killed.  Martin Richard, someone who's short years were way more deserving of a Rolling Stone cover than the coward who killed him.

You're not Martin Richard's mom. You're not his dad, or uncle, or sibling, or even someone who lives in THE SAME FUCKING TOWN. Step off.

[AFK]

Oh, actually, that was the 8 year old the sack of shit killed.  Martin Richard, someone who's short years were way more deserving of a Rolling Stone cover than the coward who killed him.

You're not Martin Richard's mom. You're not his dad, or uncle, or sibling, or even someone who lives in THE SAME FUCKING TOWN. Step off.

No.  It doesn't preclude me, or anyone else, from having an opinion.

[AFK]

Also since you aren't related to Trayvon, nor a resident of his city, I'm assuming you are going to stop voicing opinions of that verdict, right?

[AFK]

But, but, but....that's different because.....

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Dude, quote what the cover says about him.

The boy "was a bright, energetic young boy who had big dreams and high hopes for his future"

You do remember the difference between the present and the past imperfect tenses, do you not?

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I think part of the upset about all of this is the reminder that anyone of us, despite any promise, popularity, or altruism can turn into an evil monster. Your own son may do something similar someday, and you might not have any warning signs.

And yes, Dzhokhar is an evil young man. But he wasn't always.

[Pæs]

This has nothing to do with race or expected visions of evil.

Um, so nobody is talking about race or expected visions of evil as a result of this cover?

Because, that's a conversation I think is worth having and my experience is that a lot of people are having it because of this.

[Left]

RHWN is under the impression that if the rest of us get tired of discussing this with him and go away, he wins?
He shows up and declaims until we all get really irritated with him and quit, and he then believes he's won?
I think that's why I don't like arguing with him, because he's not so much taking a point and flexibly turning it over, looking at it, asking questions, learning.

It's that certainty of a True Believer.

I think part of the upset about all of this is the reminder that anyone of us, despite any promise, popularity, or altruism can turn into an evil monster. Your own son may do something similar someday, and you might not have any warning signs.

And yes, Dzhokhar is an evil young man. But he wasn't always.

He was once as we were.  Makes him a whole lot scarier?

[Nephew Twiddleton]

This has nothing to do with race or expected visions of evil.

Um, so nobody is talking about race or expected visions of evil as a result of this cover?

Because, that's a conversation I think is worth having and my experience is that a lot of people are having it because of this.

The race thing, and the religion thing, cannot be separated from this.

Step 1: No one knows who did it yet.
GOPpers- "It's those dang durn Islams again! Let go burn a Koran!"
Libs- "It could just as well have been a white guy."

Step 2: Manhunt.
Goppers- Wish you had yer gunz don't yer yer libturds?
Libs- Shut up. Bastards probably got gunz due to lack of proper controls.

Step 3: They're Chechen.
Goppers- Told you! It was MERZLERMS!!!!
Libs- WHITE merzlerms, yes....

[Nephew Twiddleton]

RHWN is under the impression that if the rest of us get tired of discussing this with him and go away, he wins?
He shows up and declaims until we all get really irritated with him and quit, and he then believes he's won?
I think that's why I don't like arguing with him, because he's not so much taking a point and flexibly turning it over, looking at it, asking questions, learning.

It's that certainty of a True Believer.

I think part of the upset about all of this is the reminder that anyone of us, despite any promise, popularity, or altruism can turn into an evil monster. Your own son may do something similar someday, and you might not have any warning signs.

And yes, Dzhokhar is an evil young man. But he wasn't always.

He was once as we were.  Makes him a whole lot scarier?

It certainly does. Anyone of us can go wrong at anytime. The odds are that you won't, since there's a lot of us. But it will happen to someone, regardless of who they once were.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Consider, these guys became what they were partially because they were Westernized and their mom disapproved of that, so they did a 180 and bolted in the other direction. Sometimes expectation of what you should be makes you go way across the line.

[Pæs]

This has nothing to do with race or expected visions of evil.

Um, so nobody is talking about race or expected visions of evil as a result of this cover?

Because, that's a conversation I think is worth having and my experience is that a lot of people are having it because of this.

The race thing, and the religion thing, cannot be separated from this.

Step 1: No one knows who did it yet.
GOPpers- "It's those dang durn Islams again! Let go burn a Koran!"
Libs- "It could just as well have been a white guy."

Step 2: Manhunt.
Goppers- Wish you had yer gunz don't yer yer libturds?
Libs- Shut up. Bastards probably got gunz due to lack of proper controls.

Step 3: They're Chechen.
Goppers- Told you! It was MERZLERMS!!!!
Libs- WHITE merzlerms, yes....

I'm seeing the "monsters aren't born monsters" conversation elsewhere and then I come to PD and it's RWHN screeching about TERRURISTS and THE CHILDREN. Used to be that I came here for a deeper level of discussion than I could find on Facebook.