How We Protect At-Risk Kids.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

And they are all the same, everywhere, and all assessors always use the same protocols and would come to the same conclusion given the same case.

You are so... just kinda dumb. I don't think you know what the word "assessment" even means.

I was PAID in a prior job, by the state, to train providers on how to use an assessment, specifically, the JASAE assessment for juveniles. 

You should, ethically speaking, give them their money back.

Given that they (the state) loved my work so much that they put me in charge of a gambling treatment network, I'm not sure that would make any sense.

We have only your word for that.  Perhaps if you linked us to a reputable source (say, the Daily Mail)...

*cue some bullshit about privacy and anonymity for the chillerin and how not even the girlfriend he claims to have knows where his house is*

[Ben Shapiro]

<3 you guys.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

<3 you guys.

You sure do have a lot of love energy lately. Is that your normal personality, or have you been hitting the bean juice? I only ask because I'm concerned.

[Ben Shapiro]

I'm following a recipe in one of Ayn Rand's book. You take a bunch of poor people you grind them up, and then proceed to shit on them, and also smoke 3 packs of cigs a day.

[East Coast Hustle]

This whole thread is amazing.

[AFK]

And they are all the same, everywhere, and all assessors always use the same protocols and would come to the same conclusion given the same case.

You are so... just kinda dumb. I don't think you know what the word "assessment" even means.

I was PAID in a prior job, by the state, to train providers on how to use an assessment, specifically, the JASAE assessment for juveniles. 

You should, ethically speaking, give them their money back.

Given that they (the state) loved my work so much that they put me in charge of a gambling treatment network, I'm not sure that would make any sense.

We have only your word for that.  Perhaps if you linked us to a reputable source (say, the Daily Mail)...

*cue some bullshit about privacy and anonymity for the chillerin and how not even the girlfriend he claims to have knows where his house is*

Oh, she's VERY familiar with my house. 

[Nephew Twiddleton]

And they are all the same, everywhere, and all assessors always use the same protocols and would come to the same conclusion given the same case.

You are so... just kinda dumb. I don't think you know what the word "assessment" even means.

I was PAID in a prior job, by the state, to train providers on how to use an assessment, specifically, the JASAE assessment for juveniles. 

You should, ethically speaking, give them their money back.

Given that they (the state) loved my work so much that they put me in charge of a gambling treatment network, I'm not sure that would make any sense.

We have only your word for that.  Perhaps if you linked us to a reputable source (say, the Daily Mail)...

*cue some bullshit about privacy and anonymity for the chillerin and how not even the girlfriend he claims to have knows where his house is*

Oh, she's VERY familiar with my house.

Everyone rwhn has sex like most of the population. Let us be impressed.

[Ben Shapiro]

And they are all the same, everywhere, and all assessors always use the same protocols and would come to the same conclusion given the same case.

You are so... just kinda dumb. I don't think you know what the word "assessment" even means.

I was PAID in a prior job, by the state, to train providers on how to use an assessment, specifically, the JASAE assessment for juveniles. 

You should, ethically speaking, give them their money back.

Given that they (the state) loved my work so much that they put me in charge of a gambling treatment network, I'm not sure that would make any sense.

We have only your word for that.  Perhaps if you linked us to a reputable source (say, the Daily Mail)...

*cue some bullshit about privacy and anonymity for the chillerin and how not even the girlfriend he claims to have knows where his house is*

Oh, she's VERY familiar with my house.

Everyone rwhn has sex like most of the population. Let us be impressed.

But can you get laid, and throw children in jail? CAN YOU?!??!?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

And they are all the same, everywhere, and all assessors always use the same protocols and would come to the same conclusion given the same case.

You are so... just kinda dumb. I don't think you know what the word "assessment" even means.

I was PAID in a prior job, by the state, to train providers on how to use an assessment, specifically, the JASAE assessment for juveniles. 

You should, ethically speaking, give them their money back.

Given that they (the state) loved my work so much that they put me in charge of a gambling treatment network, I'm not sure that would make any sense.

We have only your word for that.  Perhaps if you linked us to a reputable source (say, the Daily Mail)...

*cue some bullshit about privacy and anonymity for the chillerin and how not even the girlfriend he claims to have knows where his house is*

That was probably just the black girlfriend.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I wonder what RWHN's undergraduate training was in... it seems fairly clearly not to have been a hard science or a social science. That leaves... what? Maybe history, art, or literature?

Not that there's anything wrong with that, it just leaves him uniquely unqualified when it comes to taking part in these conversations.

Not to pick a fight here, but I find it somewhat offensive to say that because one lacks (or may lack) a formal education in a specific field, he is disqualified automatically from meaningfully contributing to a discussion about that field. If that's the case then I have no right to talk about anything at all, because my formal education stopped at a high school diploma.

In fairness to RWHN (whether or not he deserves fairness will not be discussed here), if he's really employed as he claims to be then I'd be surprised to find out he had no formal training in at least some kind of social science. Or whatever passes for social science in Maine, anyway. Surely they wouldn't let a complete amateur loose at the state legislators to push a blatantly blind and ignorant agenda with absolutely no science behind it. That just wouldn't happen. Not in my America.

I can see your point, but meaningful conversation is one thing. In a meaningful conversation, one who is not versed in the subject can learn. You and I could have a meaningful conversation on, I dunno, rudimentary Latin grammar if you'd want to talk about something so dry (assuming you haven't taken Latin). Meaningful conversation also includes questions, and a-ha!'s. Policy is a different thing. Policy is not a meaningful conversation between people who are both versed and unversed in a subject, but rather something that should be talked about with people who have the prerequisite backgrounds in the topic at hand. And this topic requires just as much health and science input as policy input, when talking about programs that affect society. In fact, it should involve more health and science. And RWHN has shown an aversion to contradictory data. In fact, so much so that he won't even click the links that are used as a rebuttal, and flat out dismissing them as being biased.

Certainly when it comes to "meaningful conversation," RWHN wouldn't be having it even if he'd graduated sixteen times from every Ivy-League school on the planet. I'm just objecting to the notion that it is his lack of proper education that disqualifies him, when in fact it is his self-imposed myopic worldview. And, it's a safe bet, all that coffee.

He is presenting himself as an authority, and invokes frequent appeals to that supposed authority, so yes, it's relevant.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I think the difference in what I and presumably Nigel as well are thinking is that this is his job, and that his undergrad background does have a bearing on that. Not that he couldn't pick up the prerequisite knowledge on his own, but how did he get there in the first place? Is his undergrad degree relevant to his current position?

I mean, the myopia probably helped, since they want policy wonks who came to a conclusion and stopped thinking.

If I were forced to hazard a guess as to the nature of RWHN's educational background, I would say he majored in public policy and minored in never getting invited to any of the good parties.

That's an excellent, and I'd bet accurate, observation. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

<3 you guys.

You sure do have a lot of love energy lately. Is that your normal personality, or have you been hitting the bean juice? I only ask because I'm concerned.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I wonder what RWHN's undergraduate training was in... it seems fairly clearly not to have been a hard science or a social science. That leaves... what? Maybe history, art, or literature?

Not that there's anything wrong with that, it just leaves him uniquely unqualified when it comes to taking part in these conversations.

He's policy, rather than health, so yeah, actually some sort of arts degree, like history, would seem to fit.

Not knocking that either, but he's coming from a position of politics, not science.

Actually it is policy AND science.

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Translation:

Actually I was a C/B liberal arts undergrad and didn't make it into my first choice grad program.

Betting that he doesn't have more than a 135 IQ. At BEST.

[AFK]

You're projecting again.   

[Pæs]

Yeah, NIGEL.

If he doesn't have more than a 135 IQ, what does that make you, considering you're driving around the parking lot while he's on the pitcher's mound? NEWSFLASH, NIGEL, IT'S A METAPHORICAL BALLPARK. WHY DID YOU EVEN BRING YOUR CAR?