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MY HATE, pt I Otherkin

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, August 16, 2013, 07:53:34 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 16, 2013, 09:22:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2013, 09:20:39 PM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 16, 2013, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2013, 08:50:12 PM
Seriously, the ONE GOOD THING about the existence of "otherkin" is that it implies we don't have anything serious to worry about.

That, or that the problems are so huge that pretending to be a unicorn tiger with wings seems like a reasonable alternative to thinking about them.

Well, I meant SERIOUS serious.  If the Nazis are invading, the otherkin grow up on the run or DIE.  If they're around, you're okay for the moment.  They are like canaries in a coal mine.  They indicate that there is still food and electronic entertainment.  So, while dystopian things may be occurring, there is no imminent threat of immediate death, as long as you can see some otherkin tard wandering around.

Predators get the slow and the fat first.  You and I will run like gazelles, oblivious to the screams of the much less ambulatory guy in the dragon outfit.

:lulz:

This is true

"I'm really a dragon on the inside" becomes much less of an urgent problem when you don't have anything to eat and/or you're in danger of freezing to death.

And that inside dragon doesn't mean JACK to the REAL bear sniffing its way toward you.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2013, 09:24:04 PM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 16, 2013, 09:22:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2013, 09:20:39 PM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 16, 2013, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2013, 08:50:12 PM
Seriously, the ONE GOOD THING about the existence of "otherkin" is that it implies we don't have anything serious to worry about.

That, or that the problems are so huge that pretending to be a unicorn tiger with wings seems like a reasonable alternative to thinking about them.

Well, I meant SERIOUS serious.  If the Nazis are invading, the otherkin grow up on the run or DIE.  If they're around, you're okay for the moment.  They are like canaries in a coal mine.  They indicate that there is still food and electronic entertainment.  So, while dystopian things may be occurring, there is no imminent threat of immediate death, as long as you can see some otherkin tard wandering around.

Predators get the slow and the fat first.  You and I will run like gazelles, oblivious to the screams of the much less ambulatory guy in the dragon outfit.

:lulz:

This is true

"I'm really a dragon on the inside" becomes much less of an urgent problem when you don't have anything to eat and/or you're in danger of freezing to death.

And that inside dragon doesn't mean JACK to the REAL bear sniffing its way toward you.

Yeah, the bear isn't thinking "I wonder if I can defeat that Otherkin dragon?" it's thinking "MEAT SNACK, INCOMING!"
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

My otherkin persona is a tall naked1 primate with his teeth bared and a big fucking rock in his fist.

He is willing to take that dragon on, because he's REAL and the dragon ISN'T. 





1 Technically, anyway.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Junkenstein

Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 16, 2013, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2013, 08:50:12 PM
Seriously, the ONE GOOD THING about the existence of "otherkin" is that it implies we don't have anything serious to worry about.

That, or that the problems are so huge that pretending to be a unicorn tiger with wings seems like a reasonable alternative to thinking about them.

Or the subject sees the problems as too huge to deal with so takes refuge in fantasy. Thus stunting normal biped thinking and resulting in all future interactions being fucked as they can never communicate as an equal. How are you equal to a MIGHTY FUCKING DRAGON? You're just not. I'm X and you're just a boring Y. The only people you'll end up actually talking to seriously in these cases are those that appear to share your particular delusion.

Consider the "Sarah Saga". I wouldn't be surprised if that was an exceptionally abusive childhood resulting in a lot of time in a sort of fuge state with whatever game it was. Then some kind of shift happens resulting in the crazy having to venture forth into the world without any of the required tools to deal with it.

Possibly. It's quite likely that the VAST majority really should just fucking know better. Just seemed worth noting as there seems to be a significant number that are somewhat damaged.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2013, 09:27:57 PM
My otherkin persona is a tall naked1 primate with his teeth bared and a big fucking rock in his fist.

He is willing to take that dragon on, because he's REAL and the dragon ISN'T. 





1 Technically, anyway.

My otherkin persona only appears to be naked, but is actually wearing the skins of her enemies.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Junkenstein on August 16, 2013, 09:29:04 PM
Or the subject sees the problems as too huge to deal with so takes refuge in fantasy.

I was referring to an immediate threat.  No longer imminent.  Already here, with a smile on its face.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 16, 2013, 09:31:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2013, 09:27:57 PM
My otherkin persona is a tall naked1 primate with his teeth bared and a big fucking rock in his fist.

He is willing to take that dragon on, because he's REAL and the dragon ISN'T. 





1 Technically, anyway.

My otherkin persona only appears to be naked, but is actually wearing the skins of her enemies.

Mine can't sew. :(
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Junkenstein

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2013, 09:31:55 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 16, 2013, 09:29:04 PM
Or the subject sees the problems as too huge to deal with so takes refuge in fantasy.

I was referring to an immediate threat.  No longer imminent.  Already here, with a smile on its face.

Just worked that out. 5 new replies. Was posting it anyway by that point.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Junkenstein on August 16, 2013, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 16, 2013, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2013, 08:50:12 PM
Seriously, the ONE GOOD THING about the existence of "otherkin" is that it implies we don't have anything serious to worry about.

That, or that the problems are so huge that pretending to be a unicorn tiger with wings seems like a reasonable alternative to thinking about them.

Or the subject sees the problems as too huge to deal with so takes refuge in fantasy. Thus stunting normal biped thinking and resulting in all future interactions being fucked as they can never communicate as an equal. How are you equal to a MIGHTY FUCKING DRAGON? You're just not. I'm X and you're just a boring Y. The only people you'll end up actually talking to seriously in these cases are those that appear to share your particular delusion.

Consider the "Sarah Saga". I wouldn't be surprised if that was an exceptionally abusive childhood resulting in a lot of time in a sort of fuge state with whatever game it was. Then some kind of shift happens resulting in the crazy having to venture forth into the world without any of the required tools to deal with it.

Possibly. It's quite likely that the VAST majority really should just fucking know better. Just seemed worth noting as there seems to be a significant number that are somewhat damaged.

Junkenstein, I frequently think you make totally excellent and valid observations and speculations, and I think you probably have a really valid point in this case (although from my preliminary research there isn't a particularly strong correlation between body dysmorphic disorder and past trauma) but it's really offputting when you begin a post with wording that normally implies that you are disagreeing with the previous or quoted post.

If you want to restate and expand on a previous person's post, I suggest using words such as "Also" and "in addition" rather than words like "but" and "or" to begin your response, which imply that you are being argumentative, and at least in my case, can put people on the defensive or make them less receptive to your post.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2013, 09:32:22 PM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 16, 2013, 09:31:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2013, 09:27:57 PM
My otherkin persona is a tall naked1 primate with his teeth bared and a big fucking rock in his fist.

He is willing to take that dragon on, because he's REAL and the dragon ISN'T. 





1 Technically, anyway.

My otherkin persona only appears to be naked, but is actually wearing the skins of her enemies.

Mine can't sew. :(

:lulz:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cainad (dec.)

My Otherkin persona is a white guy who is in all ways exactly like my observable self, but with less pollen allergies.

WHAT YOU SEE IS NOT THE REAL ME.

Salty

If i had a choice, I'd be a bearstool, bringing Truth™ to your face with teeth and wood and fur.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Nephew Twiddleton

I'm assuming Otherkin is another word for Furry but with the attempt to be less ridiculous?

Why would you want to be other than a human being? Sure, we're flawed, but we've split the atom and gone to the Moon. Plus, we're generally ugly if we have scales or normal amounts of mammalian butt hair.

QuoteThey are WASTING the ONE CHANCE humanity has EVER had to step up and DO GREAT THINGS.  Or even just to party it up like GODDAMN PHARAOHS.  No, Yiff conventions don't count (I have had the misfortune of seeing one in action), so shut up.

It is a goddamn waste. We're hypothetically on the verge of being a multiworld species and we end up doing stupid shit like apparently pretending to be something else when we should take being a human to THE WALL, and both party it up like GODDAMN PHARAOHS while inching ever closer to Mars at the same damn time. Really this planet isn't large enough for THE PARTY that we're capable of throwing. Hell, on the Moon, Saturday night works out to be 56 hours (on Mars, it's still approximately 12, with a few extra minutes). Imagine what it would be like on a terraformed Venus where Saturday night is 1/14 of the whole goddamn year?

Also, you've given me a respect for Juggalos, who are essentially black metallers who listen to shitty music and are the antithesis of the seriousness which black metallers take themselves.

Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Junkenstein

Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 16, 2013, 09:39:10 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 16, 2013, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 16, 2013, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2013, 08:50:12 PM
Seriously, the ONE GOOD THING about the existence of "otherkin" is that it implies we don't have anything serious to worry about.

That, or that the problems are so huge that pretending to be a unicorn tiger with wings seems like a reasonable alternative to thinking about them.

Or the subject sees the problems as too huge to deal with so takes refuge in fantasy. Thus stunting normal biped thinking and resulting in all future interactions being fucked as they can never communicate as an equal. How are you equal to a MIGHTY FUCKING DRAGON? You're just not. I'm X and you're just a boring Y. The only people you'll end up actually talking to seriously in these cases are those that appear to share your particular delusion.

Consider the "Sarah Saga". I wouldn't be surprised if that was an exceptionally abusive childhood resulting in a lot of time in a sort of fuge state with whatever game it was. Then some kind of shift happens resulting in the crazy having to venture forth into the world without any of the required tools to deal with it.

Possibly. It's quite likely that the VAST majority really should just fucking know better. Just seemed worth noting as there seems to be a significant number that are somewhat damaged.

Junkenstein, I frequently think you make totally excellent and valid observations and speculations, and I think you probably have a really valid point in this case (although from my preliminary research there isn't a particularly strong correlation between body dysmorphic disorder and past trauma) but it's really offputting when you begin a post with wording that normally implies that you are disagreeing with the previous or quoted post.

If you want to restate and expand on a previous person's post, I suggest using words such as "Also" and "in addition" rather than words like "but" and "or" to begin your response, which imply that you are being argumentative, and at least in my case, can put people on the defensive or make them less receptive to your post.

Ah. That wasn't the intention, the "or" just seemed to be the best way to add the possibility into the mix. I'll try and phrase shit better when I dive into the middle of something.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Pergamos

Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 17, 2013, 04:59:30 AM
I'm assuming Otherkin is another word for Furry but with the attempt to be less ridiculous?

Why would you want to be other than a human being? Sure, we're flawed, but we've split the atom and gone to the Moon. Plus, we're generally ugly if we have scales or normal amounts of mammalian butt hair.

QuoteThey are WASTING the ONE CHANCE humanity has EVER had to step up and DO GREAT THINGS.  Or even just to party it up like GODDAMN PHARAOHS.  No, Yiff conventions don't count (I have had the misfortune of seeing one in action), so shut up.

It is a goddamn waste. We're hypothetically on the verge of being a multiworld species and we end up doing stupid shit like apparently pretending to be something else when we should take being a human to THE WALL, and both party it up like GODDAMN PHARAOHS while inching ever closer to Mars at the same damn time. Really this planet isn't large enough for THE PARTY that we're capable of throwing. Hell, on the Moon, Saturday night works out to be 56 hours (on Mars, it's still approximately 12, with a few extra minutes). Imagine what it would be like on a terraformed Venus where Saturday night is 1/14 of the whole goddamn year?

Also, you've given me a respect for Juggalos, who are essentially black metallers who listen to shitty music and are the antithesis of the seriousness which black metallers take themselves.

I don't think Juggalos are quite as negative about everything as black metallers. 

I think a bit too much credit is being given to them for not taking themselves seriously.  They are clowns, taking yourself seriously as a clown is kind of the most basic fail.