Trigger warning: Drugs

[AFK]

But a new law isn't being created.  Marijuana has been illegal for quite awhile.  We aren't talking about a new law to ban marijuana.  We're talking about whether or not to unban, to basically repeal a law. 


So it is incorrect to couch it in a discussion of adding laws because no laws would be added if we don't un-ban marijuana.

[LMNO]

To be clear, no law has been created that relates to marijuana other than the initial ban in the 1930s?

[AFK]

Actually laws have been added.  The ones that have made medical marijuana legal in many states.  And let me tell you, those laws have definitely been goddamned zoos, especially here in Maine.

[LMNO]

But no laws regarding the prohibition or illegality of marijuana have been created since the 1930s.


Just so I understand.

[AFK]

This isn't 1930, it is 2013.  Not un-banning marijuana does not create a new law.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

This isn't 1930, it is 2013.  Not un-banning marijuana does not create a new law.

You didn't answer the question.

[LMNO]

Law of aneristic escalation?  Create a law, new stuff squishes out the sides in the face of wider public acceptance, new laws have to be made to deal with the stuff that squished out the side, lather, rinse, repeat?



Just thinking out loud here.

A reminder of what I'm trying to say.

[AFK]

Law of aneristic escalation?  Create a law, new stuff squishes out the sides in the face of wider public acceptance, new laws have to be made to deal with the stuff that squished out the side, lather, rinse, repeat?



Just thinking out loud here.

A reminder of what I'm trying to say.

But a new law isn't being created.  We are talking about whether or not to undo a law that already exists.  Your starting point is incorrect.

[Reginald Ret]

This isn't 1930, it is 2013.  Not un-banning marijuana does not create a new law.

Correct.
What it does do is not reduce the number of laws.
If you look at the end result, not removing a law has the same effect on the total number of laws as adding a new one.
Since laws often criminalize behaviour, they create more criminals.
I do not like criminals so i think we should always strive to reduce the total number of laws.

[LMNO]

The point is that new laws are created that relate to the original law.


If the original law is removed, new laws will not be created that relate to the repealed law.

[AFK]

The point is that new laws are created that relate to the original law.


If the original law is removed, new laws will not be created that relate to the repealed law.

Sure, adding laws adds laws.  But not removing a law in and of itself does not add new laws.


But with respect to marijuana legalization you are incorrect anyway.  Because unless you also make it legal for minors to use, you will still have laws being created that relates to marijuana regulation.  And it will include laws regulating behavior.


You will also have new laws to regulate where you can and cannot use marijuana.  To include housing, schools, etc.
New laws will have to be created to regulate it at the workplace.
New laws will be created to regulate composition, THC content, promotion and advertising, outlet density, etc., etc.


More laws will have to be created to regulate recreational marijuana than are being created to maintain the status quo.

[AFK]

So, in the end, we each have desired results, but neither one will be a result where absolutely no new laws are created to create and/or maintain our desired results.


Now, I imagine those who support legalization will say those new laws are okay because it supports their desired result of legalized marijuana.


Just as I would support, for example, a new law today that made it harder for youth to get marijuana. 


But in the end, neither side's desired result will mean no new laws created. 


So it's a rather meaningless and moot discussion.

[LMNO]

Oh.  Well, then.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The point is that new laws are created that relate to the original law.


If the original law is removed, new laws will not be created that relate to the repealed law.

Sure, adding laws adds laws.  But not removing a law in and of itself does not add new laws.

FFS.

[Salty]

I am just shocked by how this thread turned out.

Shocked, i tell you.