Should kids have smartphones?

[Cain]

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[Q. G. Pennyworth]

Incidentally, as the young members of the band I am in don't really dig email, I've tentatively become an FB user myself. There are number of rather ominous things on there (I mean the way the system works, rather than the content): but I only noticed a few days ago, while browsing a friend's wall, that FB doesn't actually show me everything that those I'm friends with post for their friends. How is that? What algorythm decides what I get to see and what I don't? (Because checking those about 80 people's walls individually is just not feasible.) Should I start a new topic for that? Is it old hat? What's the story?

You can change the news feed to "All Friends" which will show all the posts. The "News Feed" or whatever they call it at the moment will show you things A) From people you interact with a lot B) That have gotten a lot of comments/likes and C) Magic. At least that's what I can tell from their methodology.

[Dildo Argentino]

You can change the news feed to "All Friends" which will show all the posts. The "News Feed" or whatever they call it at the moment will show you things A) From people you interact with a lot B) That have gotten a lot of comments/likes and C) Magic. At least that's what I can tell from their methodology.

Thanks very much. However, I am still lost. I tried searching for a solution: it is a clear indication of the narcissistic character of the whole FB thing that there's plenty of advice on how to tailor what others see of you, but I can't seem to find how to tailor what I see of others. So if you have the patience to give me more detailed instructions, please enlighten me.

[Sita]

You can change the news feed to "All Friends" which will show all the posts. The "News Feed" or whatever they call it at the moment will show you things A) From people you interact with a lot B) That have gotten a lot of comments/likes and C) Magic. At least that's what I can tell from their methodology.

Thanks very much. However, I am still lost. I tried searching for a solution: it is a clear indication of the narcissistic character of the whole FB thing that there's plenty of advice on how to tailor what others see of you, but I can't seem to find how to tailor what I see of others. So if you have the patience to give me more detailed instructions, please enlighten me.

I make lists for anyone that I really want to see all updates from. I don't seem to miss any that way.

[Pere Ubu]

Someone upthread pointed out how smartphone != Internet, though we should probably keep kids off the Intertubes lest they find their way here to PD and get irrevocably corrupted. 

I do agree with bringing up the politeness aspect - I deal with ADULTS all day long who insist on burying their schnozz in a smartphone, which makes communicating with them problematic. But somehow politeness seems to be wanting in America as a whole lately, which is entirely another discussion.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Someone upthread pointed out how smartphone != Internet, though we should probably keep kids off the Intertubes lest they find their way here to PD and get irrevocably corrupted. 

I do agree with bringing up the politeness aspect - I deal with ADULTS all day long who insist on burying their schnozz in a smartphone, which makes communicating with them problematic. But somehow politeness seems to be wanting in America as a whole lately, which is entirely another discussion.

Politeness isn't something most people can do by themselves. It's something I find I have to coax out of them using a mixture of violence and intimidation

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

You can change the news feed to "All Friends" which will show all the posts. The "News Feed" or whatever they call it at the moment will show you things A) From people you interact with a lot B) That have gotten a lot of comments/likes and C) Magic. At least that's what I can tell from their methodology.

Thanks very much. However, I am still lost. I tried searching for a solution: it is a clear indication of the narcissistic character of the whole FB thing that there's plenty of advice on how to tailor what others see of you, but I can't seem to find how to tailor what I see of others. So if you have the patience to give me more detailed instructions, please enlighten me.

You'll want to use the "close friends" list. Here's facebook's blogpost about it: https://www.facebook.com/blog/blog.php?post=10150278932602131

[Dildo Argentino]

You'll want to use the "close friends" list. Here's facebook's blogpost about it: https://www.facebook.com/blog/blog.php?post=10150278932602131

Thanks, it's all clear now.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Someone upthread pointed out how smartphone != Internet, though we should probably keep kids off the Intertubes lest they find their way here to PD and get irrevocably corrupted. 

I do agree with bringing up the politeness aspect - I deal with ADULTS all day long who insist on burying their schnozz in a smartphone, which makes communicating with them problematic. But somehow politeness seems to be wanting in America as a whole lately, which is entirely another discussion.

I find that kids, teenagers specifically, are much much more polite than my own generation. I started noticing this when I still worked in retail, when my kids were still just tots or not yet born.

My generation is ASSHOLES, seriously. Although not quite as big of assholes as Baby Boomers, they're the worst. Especially the male ones.

Generation Y is just bizarrely neurotic and self-absorbed, which I'm assuming must be some kind of side-effect of being raised by Boomers. It will be interesting to see what happens with their kids.

[Cainad (dec.)]

Someone upthread pointed out how smartphone != Internet, though we should probably keep kids off the Intertubes lest they find their way here to PD and get irrevocably corrupted. 

I do agree with bringing up the politeness aspect - I deal with ADULTS all day long who insist on burying their schnozz in a smartphone, which makes communicating with them problematic. But somehow politeness seems to be wanting in America as a whole lately, which is entirely another discussion.

I find that kids, teenagers specifically, are much much more polite than my own generation. I started noticing this when I still worked in retail, when my kids were still just tots or not yet born.

My generation is ASSHOLES, seriously. Although not quite as big of assholes as Baby Boomers, they're the worst. Especially the male ones.

Generation Y is just bizarrely neurotic and self-absorbed, which I'm assuming must be some kind of side-effect of being raised by Boomers. It will be interesting to see what happens with their kids.

We turned obsessively inward because we were told that This Is The Way The World Is (and definitely not a bizarre combination of modern weirdnesses in a world that's changing faster than ever before in history, don't be ridiculous), and failure to bend, break, and mold our personalities to suit is moral negligence.

We were told that the world is immutable, and we must be the ones who yield to the demands of the world we were brought into.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Someone upthread pointed out how smartphone != Internet, though we should probably keep kids off the Intertubes lest they find their way here to PD and get irrevocably corrupted. 

I do agree with bringing up the politeness aspect - I deal with ADULTS all day long who insist on burying their schnozz in a smartphone, which makes communicating with them problematic. But somehow politeness seems to be wanting in America as a whole lately, which is entirely another discussion.

I find that kids, teenagers specifically, are much much more polite than my own generation. I started noticing this when I still worked in retail, when my kids were still just tots or not yet born.

My generation is ASSHOLES, seriously. Although not quite as big of assholes as Baby Boomers, they're the worst. Especially the male ones.

Generation Y is just bizarrely neurotic and self-absorbed, which I'm assuming must be some kind of side-effect of being raised by Boomers. It will be interesting to see what happens with their kids.

We turned obsessively inward because we were told that This Is The Way The World Is (and definitely not a bizarre combination of modern weirdnesses in a world that's changing faster than ever before in history, don't be ridiculous), and failure to bend, break, and mold our personalities to suit is moral negligence.

We were told that the world is immutable, and we must be the ones who yield to the demands of the world we were brought into.

Unsurprising, given that you were raised by  the Me generation. So basically, they felt like they had the power to mold the world... and once they molded it, you just have to put up with it because that's the way it is.

Luckily, they're going to die, and then you'll be in charge for a while. Do good.

[Cainad (dec.)]

Someone upthread pointed out how smartphone != Internet, though we should probably keep kids off the Intertubes lest they find their way here to PD and get irrevocably corrupted. 

I do agree with bringing up the politeness aspect - I deal with ADULTS all day long who insist on burying their schnozz in a smartphone, which makes communicating with them problematic. But somehow politeness seems to be wanting in America as a whole lately, which is entirely another discussion.

I find that kids, teenagers specifically, are much much more polite than my own generation. I started noticing this when I still worked in retail, when my kids were still just tots or not yet born.

My generation is ASSHOLES, seriously. Although not quite as big of assholes as Baby Boomers, they're the worst. Especially the male ones.

Generation Y is just bizarrely neurotic and self-absorbed, which I'm assuming must be some kind of side-effect of being raised by Boomers. It will be interesting to see what happens with their kids.

We turned obsessively inward because we were told that This Is The Way The World Is (and definitely not a bizarre combination of modern weirdnesses in a world that's changing faster than ever before in history, don't be ridiculous), and failure to bend, break, and mold our personalities to suit is moral negligence.

We were told that the world is immutable, and we must be the ones who yield to the demands of the world we were brought into.

Unsurprising, given that you were raised by  the Me generation. So basically, they felt like they had the power to mold the world... and once they molded it, you just have to put up with it because that's the way it is.

Luckily, they're going to die, and then you'll be in charge for a while. Do good.

I think we're a little too freaked out and scared to really knock shit over like we ought to, but I also think we're well on our way to preparing our own children for something much weirder than anyone expected.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Someone upthread pointed out how smartphone != Internet, though we should probably keep kids off the Intertubes lest they find their way here to PD and get irrevocably corrupted. 

I do agree with bringing up the politeness aspect - I deal with ADULTS all day long who insist on burying their schnozz in a smartphone, which makes communicating with them problematic. But somehow politeness seems to be wanting in America as a whole lately, which is entirely another discussion.

I find that kids, teenagers specifically, are much much more polite than my own generation. I started noticing this when I still worked in retail, when my kids were still just tots or not yet born.

My generation is ASSHOLES, seriously. Although not quite as big of assholes as Baby Boomers, they're the worst. Especially the male ones.

Generation Y is just bizarrely neurotic and self-absorbed, which I'm assuming must be some kind of side-effect of being raised by Boomers. It will be interesting to see what happens with their kids.

We turned obsessively inward because we were told that This Is The Way The World Is (and definitely not a bizarre combination of modern weirdnesses in a world that's changing faster than ever before in history, don't be ridiculous), and failure to bend, break, and mold our personalities to suit is moral negligence.

We were told that the world is immutable, and we must be the ones who yield to the demands of the world we were brought into.

Unsurprising, given that you were raised by  the Me generation. So basically, they felt like they had the power to mold the world... and once they molded it, you just have to put up with it because that's the way it is.

Luckily, they're going to die, and then you'll be in charge for a while. Do good.

I think we're a little too freaked out and scared to really knock shit over like we ought to, but I also think we're well on our way to preparing our own children for something much weirder than anyone expected.

I hope so.

Also, my generation is going to be in charge for a little while, starting anytime now, and we'll probably fuck some shit up but good.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I actually just spent a couple of minutes really thinking about that, and it freaked me out a little. When generation x is straddling 60 shit is probably going to get a little bit strange. That'll be roughly... 2031-ish.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

All of a sudden I'm looking forward to this, a lot.