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Started by Dildo Argentino, January 06, 2014, 05:39:48 AM

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Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 04, 2014, 09:15:23 PM
Quote from: Pixie on January 04, 2014, 09:12:21 PM
does this mean evo psych can suck my strap on now?

Evolutionary psychology is an interesting budding field of investigation that is closely related to medical anthropology. However, it is, as an infant science, highly speculative and subject to loosely formed standards of rigor, as well as widely, WIDELY misunderstood/misappropriated/misrepresented by popular media.

Those two sentences. The very soul of pith, I say.

(edited to change title)
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Jet City Hustle on January 04, 2014, 09:29:20 PM
Yeah, I was tickled to see it call out something that always bothered me about (what little I know about) the study of psychology. And the concept that many of our failings as a species are due to cultural imprint rather than biological hardwiring seems like it should be HUGE.

I heard it said that a great deal of psychology as we know it was pretty much built on a tacit agreement to ignore that bombshell. Specifically, it was Wilhelm Reich's (political) criticism of Sigmund Freud that his introduction of the death drive (later called Thanatos) was simply obfuscation intended to allow Freud and his followers to state the glaringly obvious, namely that the society they lived in was making its constituent humans sick and perverted in a systematic manner. They rather wished not to raise that issue because it would have involved them in radical (gender and social) politics of some sort, and probably would have robbed them of their income, too (Freud largely treated women, but their husbands were paying for it.)

Every now and then someone comes along beating a drum about this. Three of my favourite examples are Daniel Quinn (Ishmael, The Story of B, and several other books, all stylistic variations on the same theme, really), Jean Liedloff's The Continuum Concept and Alice Miller's work on what she calls "black education" (The Drama of the Gifted Child, For Your Own Good).
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 04, 2014, 09:33:07 PM
Which, I would add, we do have the option of walking away from. Not individually, but as a society.

I'm probably being stupid, but I read that as ambiguous? Do you mean the second sentence to say: "I'm not talking about walking away individually from it, but about walking away as a society"? Or are you actually saying it is not possible to walk away individually? Because I think it is actually quite possible to walk away individually - although it is in fact true that many people just kid themselves that they have done so, and, of course, there are limits to the extent dissociation from the machine is possible.
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: holist on January 06, 2014, 05:48:34 AM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on January 04, 2014, 09:29:20 PM
Yeah, I was tickled to see it call out something that always bothered me about (what little I know about) the study of psychology. And the concept that many of our failings as a species are due to cultural imprint rather than biological hardwiring seems like it should be HUGE.

I heard it said that a great deal of psychology as we know it was pretty much built on a tacit agreement to ignore that bombshell. Specifically, it was Wilhelm Reich's (political) criticism of Sigmund Freud that his introduction of the death drive (later called Thanatos) was simply obfuscation intended to allow Freud and his followers to state the glaringly obvious, namely that the society they lived in was making its constituent humans sick and perverted in a systematic manner. They rather wished not to raise that issue because it would have involved them in radical (gender and social) politics of some sort, and probably would have robbed them of their income, too (Freud largely treated women, but their husbands were paying for it.)

Every now and then someone comes along beating a drum about this. Three of my favourite examples are Daniel Quinn (Ishmael, The Story of B, and several other books, all stylistic variations on the same theme, really), Jean Liedloff's The Continuum Concept and Alice Miller's work on what she calls "black education" (The Drama of the Gifted Child, For Your Own Good).

Might I ask you to be so kind as to shut the fuck up and not post in my threads when adults are talking? I've no interest in anything you might have to say about anything nor do I have any interest in ending your complete social ostracization at this site. You're a fucking turd. Thanks in advance.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

East Coast Hustle

In fact, could one of the other admins split this idiot out of my thread? Thanks.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Jet City Hustle on January 06, 2014, 07:07:30 AM
Might I ask you to be so kind as to shut the fuck up and not post in my threads when adults are talking? I've no interest in anything you might have to say about anything nor do I have any interest in ending your complete social ostracization at this site. You're a fucking turd. Thanks in advance.

Okay.
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Jet City Hustle on January 06, 2014, 07:07:58 AM
In fact, could one of the other admins split this idiot out of my thread? Thanks.

Service with a smile, here.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Jet City Hustle on January 06, 2014, 07:07:58 AM
In fact, could one of the other admins split this idiot out of my thread? Thanks.

Is that like a built in mechanism and you aren't actually able to edit threads you started yourself, or were you simply so unwilling to touch it?
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: holist on January 07, 2014, 06:49:51 PM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on January 06, 2014, 07:07:58 AM
In fact, could one of the other admins split this idiot out of my thread? Thanks.

Is that like a built in mechanism and you aren't actually able to edit threads you started yourself, or were you simply so unwilling to touch it?

:kojak:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Ben Shapiro

I want to laugh at him, but the idiot thinks I want to be his friend.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: 375 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal on January 07, 2014, 08:33:14 PM
I want to laugh at him, but the idiot thinks I want to be his friend.

Kojak is his friend.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Ben Shapiro

Kojak deserves better.

Dildo Argentino

Quote from: 375 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal on January 07, 2014, 08:33:14 PM
I want to laugh at him, but the idiot thinks I want to be his friend.

Actually, laugh ahead,  no such risk.
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Anna Mae Bollocks

Between holist and Coca Cola, I'm starting to have an annoyed reaction to polar bears.
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hooplala

Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on January 10, 2014, 12:42:22 AM
Between holist and Coca Cola, I'm starting to have an annoyed reaction to polar bears.

Agreed.  I propose he voluntarily change his avatar to this image:

"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

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"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
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