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Started by LMNO, April 15, 2013, 08:19:14 PM

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#1050
April 21, 2014, 05:32:24 PM
So, Marathon day.  I'm still working two blocks from the finish line. Security is tight, but no one is carrying assault rifles, at least in the open.  I have no idea what's going on in those paddy wagons and vans.

The perimeters they set up are about a block or two from the crowds, which is actually very smart, as there's no residual chaos to deal with, and there are enough "check points" to inspect bags and socially profile people (Israeli-style, chatting people up rather than grilling them) without too much hassle.

I realize this is all closing-of-barn-doors-after-fugitive-equus, so there's an incredibly small probability of violence.  So the increased security upsets me and doesn't bother me in equal amounts.  It's useless, but it's useless.

My hope is that it won't be this intense next year, but I fear that the door has been opened, and this is the new normal.

The Good Reverend Roger

#1051
April 21, 2014, 05:33:23 PM
There's no excuse for the cops not doing that, and there's no excuse for the population no resenting them doing it.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#1052
April 21, 2014, 05:39:11 PM
It's a perfect storm, what?

The Good Reverend Roger

#1053
April 21, 2014, 05:49:42 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 21, 2014, 05:39:11 PM
It's a perfect storm, what?

Cops gotta think security.  It's one of the reasons you pay them.

Free people gotta think "Fuck this noise, I'm gonna go get Bhutanese for lunch."
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#1054
April 21, 2014, 05:57:27 PM
Actually, you may be able to answer this one.  Why do cops (and most Authority, really) usually look to the last event in anticipation to the next event, even when it's been clearly shown to be a one-off, not-to-be-repeated thing?

The Good Reverend Roger

#1055
April 21, 2014, 06:03:00 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 21, 2014, 05:57:27 PM
Actually, you may be able to answer this one.  Why do cops (and most Authority, really) usually look to the last event in anticipation to the next event, even when it's been clearly shown to be a one-off, not-to-be-repeated thing?

Same reason the military does; accountability.  The public will forgive you getting suckered in new, inventive ways.  They will not tolerate the same trick working twice.  This happens in the industrial world, too.  Something breaks in a weird way, we are directed to spend all of our time researching/preventing that from happening again, while regular failures multiply.

Also, bad guys are not terribly inventive either, so it's not actually a bad strategy.  Just thank your absent God that I am not a terrorist.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#1056
April 21, 2014, 06:09:32 PM
I think I may be hanging out with Rationalists and Discordians too much, because even vaguely assuming correctly how the police would behave at the Marathon led me to concot a dozen new ways to do fucked up things without even breaking a sweat.

Shouldn't there at least be a "creative" team looking for the most viable ways that haven't been done yet?


Hmm.  Maybe there is, and we just don't know about it.


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Holy crap, does Cain think like this all the damn time!?

The Good Reverend Roger

#1057
April 21, 2014, 06:10:42 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 21, 2014, 06:09:32 PM
I think I may be hanging out with Rationalists and Discordians too much, because even vaguely assuming correctly how the police would behave at the Marathon led me to concot a dozen new ways to do fucked up things without even breaking a sweat.

Shouldn't there at least be a "creative" team looking for the most viable ways that haven't been done yet?


Hmm.  Maybe there is, and we just don't know about it.


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Holy crap, does Cain think like this all the damn time!?

That was tried, back in 2003.  But they hired Hollywood to do it. 

Because we're fucking idiots on a national level.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#1058
April 21, 2014, 06:15:43 PM
Memory banks not working.  Reminder?

The Good Reverend Roger

#1059
April 21, 2014, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 21, 2014, 06:15:43 PM
Memory banks not working.  Reminder?

It was one of the sillier Tom Ridge moves.

Anyway, this is an interesting read:  http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005/terror02_05

Though it has to do with the predictability of terrorists, not Hollywood.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

#1060
April 21, 2014, 07:33:33 PM
Like Roger said, the DHS went all Tom Clancy a few years back and hired people to come up with the worst case scenario.  Which I believe involved turning the "Freedom Towers" into anthrax and mailing it to everyone in America, on the back of nuclear suitcases laced with ricin.

Lots of companies and government agencies run red team programs of various kinds...officially a lot of them are to do with emergency response, but they'd be idiots not to game plan possible attacks as well.

LMNO

#1061
April 21, 2014, 07:34:57 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 21, 2014, 07:33:33 PM
Like Roger said, the DHS went all Tom Clancy a few years back and hired people to come up with the worst case scenario.  Which I believe involved turning the "Freedom Towers" into anthrax and mailing it to everyone in America, on the back of nuclear suitcases laced with ricin.

I love you, Cain.

Bu🤠ns

#1062
April 24, 2014, 02:41:18 AM
Meanwhile in reality...

Eater of Clowns

#1063
April 24, 2014, 02:50:09 AM
Quote from: Pippa Twiddleton on December 22, 2012, 01:06:36 AM
EoC, you are the bane of my existence.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 07, 2014, 01:18:23 AM
EoC doesn't make creepy.

EoC makes creepy worse.

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the afflicted persons get hold of and consume carrots even in socially quite unacceptable situations.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#1064
April 24, 2014, 05:02:36 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on April 24, 2014, 02:41:18 AM
Meanwhile in reality...



:lulz: Oh snap.
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