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Started by Dildo Argentino, November 26, 2014, 11:33:24 AM

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Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 03, 2014, 04:53:39 PM
Oh, I know... expecting you to treat me with the same basic decency and respect I've been painstakingly treating you with despite your communication deficits was really just too much to ask of a man in your position.

You have some weird ideas about basic decency and about respect.
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 03, 2014, 04:56:26 PM
Quote from: Dodo Argentino on December 03, 2014, 10:56:57 AMThanks for your valiant efforts aimed at "facilitating my fitting in", but I am glad you are stopping, because it wasn't helping.

:lulz: It's my fault nobody likes him.

It's not your fault. And it isn't true, either. :)
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Oh look, the Hungarian Know It All Douchebag returns for another round.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Hoopla on December 11, 2014, 11:52:37 AM

Quote from: Dodo Argentino on December 03, 2014, 11:19:35 AM
The first one, that "there exists a real physical world independent of our sensory impressions of it" - requires an act of faith from most who believe it. Kant demonstrated quite well that this is not the sort of thing we can have reasonable cause to believe.

That's easy to say, until you bloody your nose after walking into an objective wall.

It's not all that hard to say afterwards, either.

Quote from: Hoopla on December 11, 2014, 11:52:37 AM
And Kant was a philosopher, not a scientist. It might be a wise move to start basing your scientific theories on... you know... scientists.

Maybe you should try to think a little more carefully. This proposition: "there exists a real physical world independent of our sensory impressions of it" - is not a scientific theory, because it is unfalsifiable, and so is the opposite claim. The dire situation you find yourself in with science, if you actually try to be thorough about it, is that you need to have an opinion about that sort of deeply unscientific matter before you can engage in science. Most scientists choose to ignore this problem, which is fine if they do it consciously, but really pretty unfine if they just fail to notice it in the first place: because then the scientific endeavour gets mixed up with a lot or religious or quasi-religious ideology. And that does harm in the long run.
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Dodo Argentino on December 22, 2014, 01:58:00 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 03, 2014, 04:53:39 PM
Oh, I know... expecting you to treat me with the same basic decency and respect I've been painstakingly treating you with despite your communication deficits was really just too much to ask of a man in your position.

You have some weird ideas about basic decency and about respect.

Well there won't be any worries about that from here on out. Not as far as you're concerned.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Hoopla on December 11, 2014, 11:57:19 AM
I just read the rest of your rant. I had forgotten how much you hated science.

Forget what I said above, please continue sniffing your own flatulence.

I don't hate science, in fact I like it a lot. I do dislike the science delusion, but that's not the same thing as science.

Try this.
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Dodo Argentino on December 22, 2014, 01:58:48 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 03, 2014, 04:56:26 PM
Quote from: Dodo Argentino on December 03, 2014, 10:56:57 AMThanks for your valiant efforts aimed at "facilitating my fitting in", but I am glad you are stopping, because it wasn't helping.

:lulz: It's my fault nobody likes him.

It's not your fault. And it isn't true, either. :)

Liking your own posts doesn't count here any more than it does on Facebook.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Hoopla on December 11, 2014, 12:59:01 PM
Dodo, any chance we could convince you to change your screen name to Dildo?

no problem, all you gotta do is ask. :)
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Dodo Argentino on December 22, 2014, 02:04:21 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 11, 2014, 11:52:37 AM

Quote from: Dodo Argentino on December 03, 2014, 11:19:35 AM
The first one, that "there exists a real physical world independent of our sensory impressions of it" - requires an act of faith from most who believe it. Kant demonstrated quite well that this is not the sort of thing we can have reasonable cause to believe.

That's easy to say, until you bloody your nose after walking into an objective wall.

It's not all that hard to say afterwards, either.

Quote from: Hoopla on December 11, 2014, 11:52:37 AM
And Kant was a philosopher, not a scientist. It might be a wise move to start basing your scientific theories on... you know... scientists.

Maybe you should try to think a little more carefully. This proposition: "there exists a real physical world independent of our sensory impressions of it" - is not a scientific theory, because it is unfalsifiable, and so is the opposite claim. The dire situation you find yourself in with science, if you actually try to be thorough about it, is that you need to have an opinion about that sort of deeply unscientific matter before you can engage in science. Most scientists choose to ignore this problem, which is fine if they do it consciously, but really pretty unfine if they just fail to notice it in the first place: because then the scientific endeavour gets mixed up with a lot or religious or quasi-religious ideology. And that does harm in the long run.

Way to pick a strawman argument apart WHILE being insulting toward yet another person who hasn't done anything to deserve it, and at the same time conflating someone else's words with theirs.  :lol: Have you considered taking your own advice, Mr. Slow Thinker?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 11:15:22 PM
The science cult is the demon that will kill us all.

Not the overuse of carbon resources that scientific inquiry taught us about. Just science. Itself.

In the first line, you talk about the science cult. In the second one, science. Not the same.
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I like how this backwater yahoo simultaneously thinks he has some kind of insight into the scientific community's views on perception while simultaneously demonstrating his complete lack of education on scientific views of perception, and attributing one person's somewhat erroneous views of what "science is" to everyone else. Just because, apparently.

Holist, I don't think they did a very good job of teaching you critical thinking at whatever third-world boarding school you went to for your philosophy "degree".
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Dildo Argentino on December 22, 2014, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 11:15:22 PM
The science cult is the demon that will kill us all.

Not the overuse of carbon resources that scientific inquiry taught us about. Just science. Itself.

In the first line, you talk about the science cult. In the second one, science. Not the same.

Wow, look at you reading actual words. In English and everything!
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Yay, it's like a Yule wish come true!  :lulz:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I bet he's all dressed up in stained sweatpants and beer belly, looking for an uppity educated woman to belittle on the internet.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 22, 2014, 02:04:09 PM
Oh look, the Hungarian Know It All Douchebag returns for another round.

Uh-oh, you missed me that much??
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis