OPEN BAR: It's actually about ethics in fictional bars

[East Coast Hustle]

So...I did a little research and found that the publisher of the BDN is pretty close to Sen. Collins.  Could explain why they're perfectly happy giving free reign to someone who constantly spouts misinformation.

Yeah, they have a long and glorious history of giving airtime to people who shouldn't have it.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I got made admin of a huge philosophy group despite the fact that I specifically said that I don't want to be admin and have low tolerance for philosophiical wankery. 

Defrock all other admins, start reign of terror.

Seconded.

Thirded.

Fourthed. Be the villain this world needs.

5thed. It's power. Go abuse it.

I have started making  very reasonable suggestions.

We all know where this leads.

[Don Coyote]

I got made admin of a huge philosophy group despite the fact that I specifically said that I don't want to be admin and have low tolerance for philosophiical wankery. 

Defrock all other admins, start reign of terror.

Seconded.

Thirded.

Fourthed. Be the villain this world needs.

5thed. It's power. Go abuse it.

I have started making  very reasonable suggestions.

We all know where this leads.

Everyone getting a Nigeling?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Absolutely heartbroken today.

I knew 3 of the crew on the El Faro. They're still searching, but it's not good. I don't know if it's been reported in the media yet but in addition to all the debris and the oil slick, they've found a heavily damaged empty lifeboat and a survival suit in the water with unidentifiable human remains inside of it. Guessing the other lifeboat never even got deployed because of the 15 degree list they reported, and even though the rafts are rigged to hydrostatic switches so they automatically deploy, good luck trying to swim to and climb into a rubber raft in the middle of a category 4 hurricane.

I'm so sorry, ECH.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Oh, and some dickwit seems to have himself a blog at my old local paper, complete with incredibly pompous-looking picture of his smarmy ass: hxxp://smartapproaches.bangordailynews.com/2015/10/04/home/employing-out-of-the-box-strategies-to-address-substance-abuse-epidemic/?utm_campaign=Bangor+Daily+News&utm_source=state-widget

I believe there is a commenting feature. Don't say I never gave you guys anything.

"We now know addiction is a brain disease"

OH REALLY WELL I GUESS I BETTER TELL MY FRIEND CHRISTIE WHO IS A NEUROSCIENTIST WHO RESEARCHES ADDICTION AND RECOVERY AND THINKS THE DISEASE MODEL IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT THAT SHE CAN JUST HANG UP HER NEUROSCIENTIST HAT NOW.

[Don Coyote]

Oh, and some dickwit seems to have himself a blog at my old local paper, complete with incredibly pompous-looking picture of his smarmy ass: hxxp://smartapproaches.bangordailynews.com/2015/10/04/home/employing-out-of-the-box-strategies-to-address-substance-abuse-epidemic/?utm_campaign=Bangor+Daily+News&utm_source=state-widget

I believe there is a commenting feature. Don't say I never gave you guys anything.

"We now know addiction is a brain disease"

OH REALLY WELL I GUESS I BETTER TELL MY FRIEND CHRISTIE WHO IS A NEUROSCIENTIST WHO RESEARCHES ADDICTION AND RECOVERY AND THINKS THE DISEASE MODEL IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT THAT SHE CAN JUST HANG UP HER NEUROSCIENTIST HAT NOW.

"Well I can refute your point because penis beats vagina."

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I have to quit smoking pot, so of course my last act as a stoner is going to be taking the biggest dab I can physically take. Like, 30 seconds from now.

I just mention it in case I decide to post something incredibly stupid and incoherent in a minute or two.

HAVE FUN!!!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The more I learn about entropy the less I think of it as a chaos phenomenon.  It's the reason why things happen the way they do.

How are you defining chaos, here?

Randomness I guess.  Been awhile since I've tried to write it down been 10 years since I've had to use thermoscience. Things like crystals don't form against entopy but because of it. They're seeking the lowest energy state and it's less chaotic than before.

Sort of thinking that the universe started as chaos and will end as chaos, but seems to be less so in the middle due to entropy.

Chaos, properly, encompasses both entropy and emergence, which are the forces which contribute to the total order and disorder of energy and matter.

[Chelagoras The Boulder]

Oh, and some dickwit seems to have himself a blog at my old local paper, complete with incredibly pompous-looking picture of his smarmy ass: hxxp://smartapproaches.bangordailynews.com/2015/10/04/home/employing-out-of-the-box-strategies-to-address-substance-abuse-epidemic/?utm_campaign=Bangor+Daily+News&utm_source=state-widget

I believe there is a commenting feature. Don't say I never gave you guys anything.

"We now know addiction is a brain disease"

OH REALLY WELL I GUESS I BETTER TELL MY FRIEND CHRISTIE WHO IS A NEUROSCIENTIST WHO RESEARCHES ADDICTION AND RECOVERY AND THINKS THE DISEASE MODEL IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT THAT SHE CAN JUST HANG UP HER NEUROSCIENTIST HAT NOW.

Just curious, I only took like one clas that touched on addiction in any way, but my understanding was that addiction is something like a learned behavior, kind of like how if you can train a chimp to do a thing by giving them a banana, a person with a drug habit is trained to do drugs a lot, because drugs are a pretty big banana, as far as the reward center of your brain is concerned.

[Meunster]

Well Meunster is being especially charming today 

sorry, your favorite forum mysticwicks sent over a new guy. Had to show him what chaos magick is all about.

[Chelagoras The Boulder]

also, scrambling to find a coworker to cover me for two days this month. Kicking myself because these were two events that i had plenty of time to request off formally, and now i've put it off for so long that my only recourse is to either ask coworkers for help or beg to the HR manager. Fingers crossed.

[Trivial]

The more I learn about entropy the less I think of it as a chaos phenomenon.  It's the reason why things happen the way they do.

How are you defining chaos, here?

Randomness I guess.  Been awhile since I've tried to write it down been 10 years since I've had to use thermoscience. Things like crystals don't form against entopy but because of it. They're seeking the lowest energy state and it's less chaotic than before.

Sort of thinking that the universe started as chaos and will end as chaos, but seems to be less so in the middle due to entropy.

Chaos, properly, encompasses both entropy and emergence, which are the forces which contribute to the total order and disorder of energy and matter.

Well, yes order is a subset of chaos. Then we get into chaos as everything, and entropy is a part of it.  I'm stuck on chaos=disorder and probably shouldn't be.   Entropy is more of an agent of change, and things are more ordered with it than without it.  I was thinking went back to my days of arguing on creationist boards.  They think of entropy as everything getting disordered, but if we didn't have it, every chemical reaction could spontaneously reverse, no energy required which to me is more disordered than ordered.  Then I'd muse about people atomizing.  Good times.

Not sure if I'm cut out for discussing the nature of chaos on a board that has probably argued about it a thousand times over before I even thought to look here. 

[East Coast Hustle]

I have to quit smoking pot, so of course my last act as a stoner is going to be taking the biggest dab I can physically take. Like, 30 seconds from now.

I just mention it in case I decide to post something incredibly stupid and incoherent in a minute or two.

HAVE FUN!!!

I had a nap. With VERY vivid dreams.

[LMNO]

The more I learn about entropy the less I think of it as a chaos phenomenon.  It's the reason why things happen the way they do.

How are you defining chaos, here?

Randomness I guess.  Been awhile since I've tried to write it down been 10 years since I've had to use thermoscience. Things like crystals don't form against entopy but because of it. They're seeking the lowest energy state and it's less chaotic than before.

Sort of thinking that the universe started as chaos and will end as chaos, but seems to be less so in the middle due to entropy.

Chaos, properly, encompasses both entropy and emergence, which are the forces which contribute to the total order and disorder of energy and matter.

Well, yes order is a subset of chaos. Then we get into chaos as everything, and entropy is a part of it.  I'm stuck on chaos=disorder and probably shouldn't be.   Entropy is more of an agent of change, and things are more ordered with it than without it.  I was thinking went back to my days of arguing on creationist boards.  They think of entropy as everything getting disordered, but if we didn't have it, every chemical reaction could spontaneously reverse, no energy required which to me is more disordered than ordered.  Then I'd muse about people atomizing.  Good times.

Not sure if I'm cut out for discussing the nature of chaos on a board that has probably argued about it a thousand times over before I even thought to look here.

There are a few old conversations about chaos = order+disorder and all that.  Not to shamelessly plug*, but much of the results were distilled into the Chao te Ching, if you don't mind that sort of thing.














*This is a shameless plug.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I got made admin of a huge philosophy group despite the fact that I specifically said that I don't want to be admin and have low tolerance for philosophiical wankery. 

Defrock all other admins, start reign of terror.

Seconded.

Thirded.

Fourthed. Be the villain this world needs.

5thed. It's power. Go abuse it.

I have started making  very reasonable suggestions.

We all know where this leads.

Everyone getting a Nigeling?

This will certainly happen.

One thing I wasn't expecting was how much DRAMA seems to be ongoing in the admin-only group and chat.