Anarchist space program (every rocket gonna explode radicallly)

[Frontside Back]

So, the local punks are planning to reach the orbit with their DIY, freegan, fully organic, chemical free rocketship. They are talking about squatting the ISS. Are drugs legal in space? Does weed grow in zero g? Can you get NASA to provide you more drugs by threatening to cause kessler syndrome? These are the sort of big research questions you'd never get an answer for from a standard space agency. If you want to support the cause, build your own fucking rocket and join us up in there. Also, oxygen donations are welcome.

[Cain]

I am opposed to Space Anarchism for two very important reasons:

1) the probability of The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress comparisons and quotes rises exponentially. We have a duty to the future to not force them to live with Heinlein's insufferability.

2) It's not Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism

[Cain]

[Trivial]

Zomg Space Beer Competition

[Frontside Back]

I'm all for FALGSC, but after the demise of soviet space program, I see no realistic pathways to achieve it before "inevitable" aging of my cells kills my sex drive. And with the antichrist Elon Musk toying with missile technology, time is running pretty thin before corporations introduce tollbooths in the upper atmosphere.

If I can't get to space, I'm going under the sea and wait until we wipe ourselves off this planet, infiltrate the next sentient species emerging from this hellhole and fuck it up for them also. THIS IS A SERIOUS THREAT, EITHER EVERYBODY LEAVES OR NOBODY WILL.

[Cain]

You have a point.  I'd take the social democratic space program ("here's how Bernie can still take the moon hostage") over Elon Musk.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

Yeah, lately Musk is starting to give me the same Jim Jones/Marshall Appleshite/L.Ron Hubbard vibe I used to get from Steve Jobs

[Frontside Back]

Anybody want to go lurk around NASA facilities disguised as a top secret spy satellite? In space nobody can hear you party.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Musk walks a fine line between genius and bankruptcy. Sooner or later he'll go under. I'm just hoping that doesn't dissuade the corporations that space is a fucking profitable enterprise.

It'd be nice if we colonised the galaxy as some kind of utopian star trek, greater good of humanity project but that's not going to happen. Human beings are neither great nor good, they're greedy little self centred fuckheads who will only engage in something if they can make a quick buck on it.

In the real world it's either greedy corporations racing for the mining rights to the asteroid belt and setting up overpriced chain restaurants in low lunar orbit or else humanity ends in this pathetic fucking gravity well we call Earth.

Either option suits me just fine.

[Frontside Back]

If humankind can get itself off the planet while still being assholes, so can aliens. Long and tedious alien bureaucracy, death ray travel times or pure sadism in watching humanity suffer might be the only reason we still exist. So the moment people get a solid foot in space without losing the idea of mitigating potential future threats, people become dead/enslaved. If humans get to space being hippies or some shit, there's a tiniest chance everybody else did the same, and then there's galactic raves, bad music, drugs, peace and sex for everybody and their pet robots. On the other hand, that tiniest chance will still exist if we stay warmongers, and then we get a chance to raid, rape and demolish a whole fucking galaxy of defenseless hippies. And genocide is certainly one of our favorite hobbies.

[Bruno]

My current operating theory is that our planet has been under the control of bored alien teenagers (or the equivalent thereof for their species) for several millenia. I can't see any other motivation for aliens to intervene on this planet, and I have a hard time seeing us humans getting this far on our own. We're just too goddamn stupid to not be dead yet.

[Pergamos]

Musk walks a fine line between genius and bankruptcy. Sooner or later he'll go under. I'm just hoping that doesn't dissuade the corporations that space is a fucking profitable enterprise.

It'd be nice if we colonised the galaxy as some kind of utopian star trek, greater good of humanity project but that's not going to happen. Human beings are neither great nor good, they're greedy little self centred fuckheads who will only engage in something if they can make a quick buck on it.

In the real world it's either greedy corporations racing for the mining rights to the asteroid belt and setting up overpriced chain restaurants in low lunar orbit or else humanity ends in this pathetic fucking gravity well we call Earth.

Either option suits me just fine.

Our president has shown that bankruptcy, without genius, can still be a path to success...

[P3nT4gR4m]

A field promotion to captain of the Titanic probably isn't most people's idea of success