Getting into a Discussion

[LHX]

...because it's more interesting than always talking to a bunch of yes-men or at the very least people who think like you do.  Bo-RING!

who said anything about yes-men?

i said 'people who dont acknowledge that they might be wrong'


that has nothing to do with 'yes-men' or people who think alike


meat eaters and non-meat eaters can get into a discussion about nutrition and how a body breaks down and assimilates food

its all about people being mentally prepared to acknowledge a better (more useful/more adaptable) perspective or point of view


some people arent at that point

[Jenne]

It's been my experience that those who hold strong opinions tend to be rather stubborn.

Getting them to the point of admitting they might be wrong is no small exercise of patience...esp if you share said propensity to believe YOU might be right, other viewpoints wrong.

All of the previous reasons before mine came from the premise that the person engaging the "person who doesn't acknowledge they might be wrong" was someone else...not themselves.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Blame the 2 for one carling again...

You make me wanna justify my bullshit
by I aint gonna cos then I'd be a hypocrite
You think you're winning I don't see the attraction
I just conceded so you'd choke on satisfaction

You make we wanna kill someone I've never met
typing crap into a forum on the internet
you think I'm jaded hell you aint seen nothing yet
Your golden future is just another safe bet

You make me wanna try to get a message through
you're under my skin and I haven't even met you
but don't go thinking that's something to be proud about
You'll be forgotten in the time it takes to call you out

You make me wanna choose my words like ammunition
making you look stupid is my one ambition
I keep on posting as an excercise in contradiction
I've forgotten what you said to piss me off cos now I'm on a mission

[LHX]

motherfuckin 2 for 1 carling

[DJRubberducky]

Getting them to the point of admitting they might be wrong is no small exercise of patience...esp if you share said propensity to believe YOU might be right, other viewpoints wrong.

QFT.  I don't bother sharing my beliefs most of the time, because I know that I can't always defend them rationally.  And if I can't defend them rationally, then any attempt to discuss them rationally is going to end up perceived as an attack.

Though I'd like to think it's less a matter of "I'm right everyone else is wrong" and more like "This is right for me and anyone else's model would be wrong for me".  That's how I justify staying quiet, at least.

[Jenne]

Getting them to the point of admitting they might be wrong is no small exercise of patience...esp if you share said propensity to believe YOU might be right, other viewpoints wrong.

QFT. I don't bother sharing my beliefs most of the time, because I know that I can't always defend them rationally. And if I can't defend them rationally, then any attempt to discuss them rationally is going to end up perceived as an attack.

Though I'd like to think it's less a matter of "I'm right everyone else is wrong" and more like "This is right for me and anyone else's model would be wrong for me". That's how I justify staying quiet, at least.

That's a great way of putting it, DJR.  Also an aspect I hadn't thought of, so thanks for bringing it up.

I think a lot of people aren't even aware that's really what is keeping them from getting their points across...they see it not as their own inability to explain effectively but the other person's lack of ability to understand.

Could even be both, in a lot of cases.