ITT, We whine about how bad humanity is (especially white peoples), and rip off

[LMNO]

Like I implied, a lot of it really does depend on your intentions of the end result.

You can get a really good raw garage rock album with 4 mics and 2 tracks of tape, if that's the sound you want.

I was hypothesizing a standard "commercial" rock album.

[B_M_W]

Like I implied, a lot of it really does depend on your intentions of the end result.

You can get a really good raw garage rock album with 4 mics and 2 tracks of tape, if that's the sound you want.

I was hypothesizing a standard "commercial" rock album.

The better the musicianship, the less cleaness of recording you need for it to sound good.

[hunter s.durden]

Metallica is very skilled in the instrument department, and I do like even some instrumentals (Call of Cthulu = awesome), but don't encourage to much of that. I like words in my songs, not just two lines and then 7 minutes of guitar. (they did do it well on Justice though)

I'm kinda both ways tbh I love everything from Dylan which sounds like dogshit but its all about the words right up to Steve Vai who actually sounded worse when he started putting singing in his solo albums.

My music taste is varied and random. I can't get in any kind of music discussion because my taste seems arbitrary. Words generally take the importance though.

[LMNO]

Like I implied, a lot of it really does depend on your intentions of the end result.

You can get a really good raw garage rock album with 4 mics and 2 tracks of tape, if that's the sound you want.

I was hypothesizing a standard "commercial" rock album.

The better the musicianship, the less cleaness of recording you need for it to sound good.

Then again, some lo-fi hack musicianship stuff would sound like shit if you cleaned it up.

[B_M_W]

Yeah, that was to say nothing of crappy musicianship. Some stuff will NEVER sound good, no matter how clean you make it. 

[LMNO]

The point being that sometimes the lo-fi quality helps the final product.

[B_M_W]

The point being that sometimes the lo-fi quality helps the final product.

To tell truth, I don't really want to listen to something if the musicianship is hackish. I could care less about it.

Thats just my personal opinion.

[AFK]

The point being that sometimes the lo-fi quality helps the final product.

Sonic Youth are a good example of that.  In fact I think their songs sound much better live with the bleeps and burps of the feedback then the reigned in result on tape. 

[Mourning Star]

I think it's hilarious that Queensryche's record label asked them to go grunge after the whole Seattle thing happened. 

And thankfully, Geoff Tate told them to fuck themselves...

Um, have you ever heard the album "Hear in the Now Frontier?"

That's a perfect mix of bad production and bad songwriting.   

Yeah. I have that album...

...

Yeah...it was horrid, everyone makes mistakes though, tribe wasn't bad at all...

but we can forgive Queensryche nearly all crimes for two reasons...

1. Operation Mindcrime
2. Promised Land

Promised Land was so good we can even forgive them for making that terrible video game that accompanied it...

[Mangrove]

The point being that sometimes the lo-fi quality helps the final product.

Sonic Youth are a good example of that.  In fact I think their songs sound much better live with the bleeps and burps of the feedback then the reigned in result on tape. 

Sonic Youth FTW  :-D

[DJRubberducky]

My music taste is varied and random. I can't get in any kind of music discussion because my taste seems arbitrary. Words generally take the importance though.

Heh - my opinion on it is that music can stand on its own without words, but if it's got words, then those are what will receive my attention.  There are parts of Les Miserables that irk the snot out of me *kleenex* 'cause it's two song lines going at the same time on top of each other, and I can't follow them both.

Odd thing with my brain...if I want to engage my brain without distracting it (like, totally background music), it HAS to be instrumental.  Otherwise I want to listen to the words instead of focusing on whatever else.  I have to turn down the radio in my truck if I want to have a serious conversation with someone, too.

[Jenne]

My music taste is varied and random. I can't get in any kind of music discussion because my taste seems arbitrary. Words generally take the importance though.

Heh - my opinion on it is that music can stand on its own without words, but if it's got words, then those are what will receive my attention. There are parts of Les Miserables that irk the snot out of me *kleenex* 'cause it's two song lines going at the same time on top of each other, and I can't follow them both.

Odd thing with my brain...if I want to engage my brain without distracting it (like, totally background music), it HAS to be instrumental. Otherwise I want to listen to the words instead of focusing on whatever else. I have to turn down the radio in my truck if I want to have a serious conversation with someone, too.

I'm somewhat like that, but I find that if the music is truly shitty and I can't understand the words, then fuck that and I don't want to ever listen to it.

Afghan music ftl.

[P3nT4gR4m]

My music taste is varied and random. I can't get in any kind of music discussion because my taste seems arbitrary. Words generally take the importance though.

Heh - my opinion on it is that music can stand on its own without words, but if it's got words, then those are what will receive my attention. There are parts of Les Miserables that irk the snot out of me *kleenex* 'cause it's two song lines going at the same time on top of each other, and I can't follow them both.

Odd thing with my brain...if I want to engage my brain without distracting it (like, totally background music), it HAS to be instrumental. Otherwise I want to listen to the words instead of focusing on whatever else. I have to turn down the radio in my truck if I want to have a serious conversation with someone, too.

I'm somewhat like that, but I find that if the music is truly shitty and I can't understand the words, then fuck that and I don't want to ever listen to it.

Afghan music ftl.

One word - "Emotion".

[B_M_W]

My music taste is varied and random. I can't get in any kind of music discussion because my taste seems arbitrary. Words generally take the importance though.

Heh - my opinion on it is that music can stand on its own without words, but if it's got words, then those are what will receive my attention. There are parts of Les Miserables that irk the snot out of me *kleenex* 'cause it's two song lines going at the same time on top of each other, and I can't follow them both.

Odd thing with my brain...if I want to engage my brain without distracting it (like, totally background music), it HAS to be instrumental. Otherwise I want to listen to the words instead of focusing on whatever else. I have to turn down the radio in my truck if I want to have a serious conversation with someone, too.

I'm somewhat like that, but I find that if the music is truly shitty and I can't understand the words, then fuck that and I don't want to ever listen to it.

Afghan music ftl.

Thats sad. Discounting a whole country of music. I have heard some gorgeous afgan music,  full of emotion. I've never heard it again though.

[hunter s.durden]

In a way I'm not a true music lover. I simply like poetry with a beat. I don't care about how many chords there are, or how simplistic the drumming is.

In the Les Mis example it's all about the emotion, and the music could be a kazoo. The words and delivery makes me feel like i'm in the friggin revolution.