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Started by Richter, June 26, 2007, 05:32:02 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

#30
June 28, 2007, 09:02:29 AM
Quote from: LMNO on June 26, 2007, 07:41:10 PM
To be honest, I blame the higher concentration of THC in pot these days.  When all I could find was swag, I could smoke a joint, have a beer, and then go fuck shit up on the streets.

Now, I take one hit, and I'm REALLY FUCKING STONED.



LMNO
-doesn't smoke much anymore.

The CoN approves of drugs that fuck you up too much to for you to do anything.
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Doktor Loki

#31
June 28, 2007, 09:10:22 AM
Bah!
The CoN engenders the idea that drugs should fuck you up to much to do anything.
Half the time, it's not even the drugs that do it.
It's people being retarded and assuming that that's what the drug does.
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The Good Reverend Roger

#32
June 28, 2007, 09:23:18 AM
Quote from: Doktor_Fistula on June 28, 2007, 09:10:22 AM
Bah!
The CoN engenders the idea that drugs should fuck you up to much to do anything.
Half the time, it's not even the drugs that do it.
It's people being retarded and assuming that that's what the drug does.

Um.  Yeah.  You go ahead and get a head full of crank, and tell me that again.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Idem

#33
June 28, 2007, 09:31:38 AM
Quote from: Doktor_Fistula on June 28, 2007, 09:10:22 AM.
Half the time, it's not even the drugs that do it.
It's people being retarded and assuming that that's what the drug does.
:lulz:

Triple Zero

#34
June 28, 2007, 10:50:44 AM
well a medicine student friend of mine *did* tell me yesterday that "research has pointed out that" on average the placebo effect accounts for 60% of medicine/drugs (esp pills) taken.

(no i don't have any sources for this :) also it's on average, we quickly figured that the percentage must be much lower with the anticonception pill, and probably higher with stuff like painkillers and such)
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#35
June 28, 2007, 01:01:23 PM
Other factors play in sometimes that we don't fully account for.  Most headaches are caused by dehydration, for example.  You take an asprin with a glass of water, and the pain goes away. 
Scientific method can be tricky, in that the labor required to track a factor often excludes tracking of others.

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LMNO

#36
June 28, 2007, 02:01:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 28, 2007, 09:02:29 AM
The CoN approves of drugs that fuck you up too much to for you to do anything.


169%

Darth Cupcake

#37
June 28, 2007, 03:31:07 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2007, 02:01:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 28, 2007, 09:02:29 AM
The CoN approves of drugs that fuck you up too much to for you to do anything.


169%

I will add 31% to this so we can have a full 200% rating here.
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Darth Cupcake

#38
June 28, 2007, 03:33:26 PM
Quote from: triple zero on June 28, 2007, 10:50:44 AM
well a medicine student friend of mine *did* tell me yesterday that "research has pointed out that" on average the placebo effect accounts for 60% of medicine/drugs (esp pills) taken.

(no i don't have any sources for this :) also it's on average, we quickly figured that the percentage must be much lower with the anticonception pill, and probably higher with stuff like painkillers and such)

Here's the thing--even if it IS "the placebo effect," it's still having that effect. And it's the effect that matters in the end.

I don't care what the REASON you're doing nothing is, the point remains that you're doing nothing (I speak in generalized you, for the record, not targeting anyone in specific). And the placebo effect can be just as powerful as actual drugs, I think. So whether or not it's the drugs themselves that are making people just be zombies, they are just being zombies, and that's no good.
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LMNO

#39
June 28, 2007, 03:46:55 PM
A postulate:  In this sense, TV is a literal drug.

AFK

#40
June 28, 2007, 03:53:19 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2007, 03:46:55 PM
A postulate:  In this sense, TV is a literal drug.

Actually, according to current brain research, it actually is.  Because it can trigger the same dopamine responses that chemical drugs do.  This is one of the reasons for limiting TV viewing in children.  Not the content, just the actual viewing itself.  Also video games.  It kind of taps into that immediate gratification sort of reaction that one gets from using drugs.  The more exposure a child has to that kind of dopamine response, the more pre-disposed they will be to seeking out other ways to get that response as they get older.  You pair that with a teenagers natural instinct to take risks and challenge boundaries and then you get kids looking for more False Slack. 
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Darth Cupcake

#41
June 28, 2007, 04:21:43 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 28, 2007, 03:53:19 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2007, 03:46:55 PM
A postulate:  In this sense, TV is a literal drug.

Actually, according to current brain research, it actually is.  Because it can trigger the same dopamine responses that chemical drugs do.  This is one of the reasons for limiting TV viewing in children.  Not the content, just the actual viewing itself.  Also video games.  It kind of taps into that immediate gratification sort of reaction that one gets from using drugs.  The more exposure a child has to that kind of dopamine response, the more pre-disposed they will be to seeking out other ways to get that response as they get older.  You pair that with a teenagers natural instinct to take risks and challenge boundaries and then you get kids looking for more False Slack. 

Even without RWHN's very interesting response, I would've agreed with that comment.

I personally hate TV. I don't own one and my parents wouldn't let me watch it growing up until I was in late middle/early high school. As a result, I learned to live without it and I'm happy about it. There is no such thing as "Must see TV." TV is just another way to waste your brain and your time and your emotions. People become more tied up in their TV shows than they do in real life. Sitting in front of the fucking TV becomes the best way to spend an evening, more appealing than actually interacting with real people oh heaven forbid!

Plus there's the advertisements, and TV shows are yet another method of sending social programming and norms into one's brain. Gender roles, acceptable morality, etc, all of these things are programmed into us via TV broadcasts.

Say no to TV if you want to program your own brain!
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P3nT4gR4m

#42
June 28, 2007, 04:24:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2007, 03:46:55 PM
A postulate:  In this sense, TV is a literal drug.

everything is a literal drug. Thats why 'drug' is such a stupid fucking word, the war on drugs is a stupid fucking war, the prohibition of drugs .....

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LMNO

#43
June 28, 2007, 04:27:46 PM
Shaddap, pariah.


Payne

#44
June 28, 2007, 04:40:27 PM
NO! Yuo shaddap! ...You ..You NON PARIAH!
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