THE CANCER KILLING PDCOM - Blow-by-Blow Coverage of Democratic Primary Race

[Cain]

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/80459/

LOL, Hillary self-pwnage

[Cain]

And while we're at it:

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html

Just while everyone else works themselves up into a frenzy over Obama and McCain.

[Cain]

Murdoch could start backing Obama

http://politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2008/04/03/could-the-murdoch-empire-start-backing-barack/

[AFK]

So yesterday at a Press Conference Hillary Clinton says there is no such thing as "pledged delegates".  So, in a way she is advocating for overturning the will of the people, since delegates in the Democrat primaries are pretty much split up by the popular vote.  So wouldn't that disenfranchise voters if the appointed delegates voted for the other person? 

Meanwhile, she's accusing Obama of disenfranchising Michigan and Florida voters because he's against them being seated, because those two states violated Democrat Party rules.  Rules which both candidates agreed to at the beginning of this whole thing. 

So bottom line:  Disenfranchising is okay as long as it's voters who didn't vote for Hillary. 

This ain't gonna end until the Convention.  I'm really hoping a brawl or two breaks out in the convention while they work this whole thing out.  And I kind of hope it does fuck up the Democratic Party.  They deserve it. 

[Jenne]

I go back and forth.  I know I've stated the Dems deserve it, but then I don't want to perpetuate the reign of the Republitard, either.

Very frustrating.

But also kinda cool to watch the Democrats eat shit for all their wishy-washiness and bullheaded behavior.

[AFK]

I'd honestly like to see them both collapse at the same time.  Won't happen of course. 

[Jenne]

No, because McCain is gaining more and more Republifuck support. 

[Cain]

Thats Republicans for you.  Throw a hissy fit, then accept the status quo.

Also, Hillary's hypocrisy in this matter is hardly surprising.

Rumour time: the nasty whispered words on the street is that if Hillary can't win the nomination, she'll sabotage Obama's, quietly suggest her supporters vote McCain (he's far more experienced and able to be commander in chief, after all. Or words to that effect) and then spend 2 more years sabotaging Obama's base support and quashing any other party upstarts before running in 2012.

[AFK]

Another rumor:

McCain may only be planning on serving one term if elected.  Heard this speculation on a recent edition of Countdown. 

[Cain]

O rly?

Time to put on our tinfoil hats:

Hillary and McCain are working together to crush Obama.  McCain gets his 4 years in the sun, and so does Hillary.

[AFK]

Yeah, I think it was a segment with Olberman and Rachel Maddow, or maybe it was another of his regulars.

Anyway, they were questioning why McCain kept bringing up his age at his appearances, cause the conventional wisdom is that you don't want to remind the voters that you are 75 years old and knocking on Death's door.  So one of the theories is that he only plans to serve for one term if he wins, and thus, when considering VPs, would be looking for someone his successor.  Nothing really to corroborate it, just speculation at this point. 

[Cain]

Sounds sensible though.

Wasn't there some speculation McCain was going to have some fairly well known Democrats in his administration as well, should he win?  The tin foil hat part of me says "pick Hillary, it will be hilarious" whereas in reality I could see it being the 'independent' Joe Libermann getting picked for such a role.

[AFK]

Lieberman and Lindsay Graham seem to be following McCain everywhere he goes.  I would be shocked if they weren't at least on the list that he's drawing up. 

[tyrannosaurus vex]

I'm pretty sure that this election is fucking something up, somewhere, regardless of the outcome. Barack Obama, who as far as I can tell was supposed to be the Token Black Candidate and be out of the running by Feb. 5 to clear a path for HRC. McCain was also supposed to be out of the race by now, in favor of Giuliani or Romney, but that didn't work out either.

It seems more and more to me, especially the longer Hillary keeps beating the dead horse that is her campaign, that somehow the primaries have fucked up the king makers' plans for 2008. And if that's true, then that's all the more reason to fight tooth and nail for a president who wasn't hand-picked by the establishment.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I'm pretty sure that this election is fucking something up, somewhere, regardless of the outcome. Barack Obama, who as far as I can tell was supposed to be the Token Black Candidate and be out of the running by Feb. 5 to clear a path for HRC. McCain was also supposed to be out of the race by now, in favor of Giuliani or Romney, but that didn't work out either.

It seems more and more to me, especially the longer Hillary keeps beating the dead horse that is her campaign, that somehow the primaries have fucked up the king makers' plans for 2008. And if that's true, then that's all the more reason to fight tooth and nail for a president who wasn't hand-picked by the establishment.

Son in that case... you're fighting for anyone but HRC?