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Started by Subtract Eight!, April 22, 2008, 08:59:57 AM

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Quote from: SillyCybin on April 22, 2008, 10:18:03 PM
Quote from: triple zero on April 22, 2008, 09:01:52 PM

1. the current theory is that the universe is not infinite.

2. even if it is infinite, gravitation travels by the speed of light, meaning you have a maximum of 46 billion light-years radius to consider. any further away stars can not have influence on us.

3. that's about 3 to 7 × 1022 stars

4. but force of gravity decreases quadratically based on distance and the figure of 2.37*10-11N is just the influence of the nearest.

5. here my back-of-the-envelope knowledge about astronomy/cosmology stops, someone else help me with the way how quadratic decrease combines with the average number of stars in the visible universe to show the gravitational force of all stars combined is not much larger than, say, the doctor standing next to your mum at the moment of birth.

1) current theory sucks donkey balls and, since nobody has proved it yet, I'm sticking with the old traditional theory

2) Infinity fucks up any restrictions since, no matter how small or slow the gravity, when it's multiplied by infinity it becomes, well, infinite

3) that's about 3 to 7 × 1022 stars times infinity!

4) see 2

5) The doctor who delivered me was very fat



2.  Round up the distance for any star to the nearest integer.  Take the largest star's mass (lets call it A).  Then, total gravity is (150/2.2)*A [ Sum 1/d^2 ] which is finite.  (Think about an infinite amount of force for a minute..  Infinity doesn't actually exist, but if it did, the slightest perturbation in the stars' position would send you hurtling infinitely far at infinite speed.. or at least the speed of light).
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Not if there was a similar star doing the same in the opposite direction, simultaneously.

Which, in a infinite universe, there'd have to be :evil:

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Quote from: SillyCybin on April 22, 2008, 10:31:22 PM
Not if there was a similar star doing the same in the opposite direction, simultaneously.

Which, in a infinite universe, there'd have to be :evil:

Then you'd be torn to shreds infinitely fast (gravity doesn't act on gravity.  It's the interaction between two objects).
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Not if I wrap my body in butter and duct tape

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the post was about the visual aspect
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Quote from: triple zero on April 22, 2008, 10:22:00 PM
2) means that the part of the universe that can affect you, is finite. otherwise there'd have to be information-transfer faster than light, which is impossible.

5) :lol:

Bell's theorem?

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Quote from: Subtract Eight! on April 22, 2008, 10:43:49 PM
the post was about the visual aspect

STFU - you're fread has been commandeered for a fight to the death between half assed pseudoscience and special relativity :argh!:

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Quote from: SillyCybin on April 22, 2008, 10:46:24 PM
Quote from: Subtract Eight! on April 22, 2008, 10:43:49 PM
the post was about the visual aspect

STFU - you're fread has been commandeered for a fight to the death between half assed pseudoscience and special relativity :argh!:

*Draws sword*  En guarde!!
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*Draws two swords

and now ... the famous double slit experiment  :mrgreen:

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Quote from: SillyCybin on April 22, 2008, 10:46:24 PM
Quote from: Subtract Eight! on April 22, 2008, 10:43:49 PM
the post was about the visual aspect

STFU - you're fread has been commandeered for a fight to the death between half assed pseudoscience and special relativity :argh!:
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Quote from: Subtract Eight! on April 22, 2008, 11:12:26 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on April 22, 2008, 10:46:24 PM
Quote from: Subtract Eight! on April 22, 2008, 10:43:49 PM
the post was about the visual aspect

STFU - you're fread has been commandeered for a fight to the death between half assed pseudoscience and special relativity :argh!:
k go ahead but i predict every taurus will die tomorrow prepare to say goodbye to 1/12 of ur buds

Will be a bad day for Ford auto mechanics...
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Quote from: Subtract Eight! on April 22, 2008, 11:12:26 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on April 22, 2008, 10:46:24 PM
Quote from: Subtract Eight! on April 22, 2008, 10:43:49 PM
the post was about the visual aspect

STFU - you're fread has been commandeered for a fight to the death between half assed pseudoscience and special relativity :argh!:
k go ahead but i predict every taurus will die tomorrow prepare to say goodbye to 1/12 of ur buds

oh great, you killed the other 1/12th ..

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I'd just like to point out that infinite space does not mean infinite mass.