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Year of the Rat #9: Assburgers for EVERYBODY!

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, June 16, 2008, 02:21:06 AM

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ITT I learn that 000 and I have nearly identical mental quirks. Weird.

Requia ☣

The DSM - IV is a joke, and its contents have more to do with politics than actual psychology.
Inflatable dolls are not recognized flotation devices.

NWC

Quote from: Requiem on June 21, 2008, 02:53:16 AM
The DSM - IV is a joke, and its contents have more to do with politics than actual psychology.

I had a conversation with a customer at work today about this, and she made a similar distinction, but hers was between social and psychological/medical diagnoses. She talked for a good 15 minutes about the difference, and made many valid points. I don't remember most of them right now though because I've been drinking some DELICIOUS-ass beer.
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Requia ☣

I should specify I meant the internal politics of the medical community.
Inflatable dolls are not recognized flotation devices.

NWC

Oh I wasn't trying to tear away what you said, I haven't had enough time to consider her words enough yet. They were interesting though, just though I throw out that idea.

I mean, you might have wanted to clarify your point anyway, but yeah, just sayin.


Ok I'm drunk and I shouldn't be posting on PD
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Requia ☣

Mostly wanted to clarify, I wasn't sure from your post if I had made my point clear at all.
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NWC

Quote from: Requiem on June 21, 2008, 03:39:15 AM
Mostly wanted to clarify, I wasn't sure from your post if I had made my point clear at all.

Oh no it made sense, I was just adding a similar yet slightly varied perspective I heard today.

The lady was walking around shopping for awhile in our small ass store where you can hear everything, and I was talking tyo a coworker about this thread, and she butted in at one point and just talked alot and said some interesting things I didn't expect to hear in my small-ish town.
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Triple Zero

Quote from: Requiem on June 21, 2008, 02:53:16 AM
The DSM - IV is a joke, and its contents have more to do with politics than actual psychology.

have you even understood what i wrote?

maybe the DSM-IV should have a big fat introduction telling people "what this book IS, and what it is NOT" (i dunno it might actually have this introduction already).

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Requia ☣

Hadn't read what you said, no, but having done so now, my point stands, the symptoms in the DSM -IV get decided on by people with a vested interest in the condition, and the connections to get on the commitee, and the people who are actively engaged in research on a condition are the *last* people I want making the final decision, a fucking layman at least won't be blinded by preconceptions and their career.

Of course, I also have preconceptions involved here, so maybe I'm just as blinded as to the end result.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Requiem on June 21, 2008, 08:58:08 PM
Hadn't read what you said, no, but having done so now, my point stands, the symptoms in the DSM -IV get decided on by people with a vested interest in the condition, and the connections to get on the commitee, and the people who are actively engaged in research on a condition are the *last* people I want making the final decision, a fucking layman at least won't be blinded by preconceptions and their career.

Of course, I also have preconceptions involved here, so maybe I'm just as blinded as to the end result.

It's just another label.

Some people are misadjusted, and that's hardly surprising in today's world.  If it makes people more comfortable to give these misadjustments medical sounding names and rationales, more power to 'em.
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Triple Zero

i can agree with that.

also, when used in the right hands, any kind of labelling can be useful. in my hands, for example, it allows me to easily find out how others have dealt with similar problems.

(even though i must admit the most similar person up to date came to me without labeling, by complete accident and to our mutual utter surprise--aint life grand )
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Quote from: triple zero on June 22, 2008, 04:08:57 PM
i can agree with that.


Who gives a fuck?  I'm a racist, remember?  It's bad to agree with me.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Triple Zero

Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: triple zero on June 22, 2008, 07:17:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 22, 2008, 06:32:54 PM
Quote from: triple zero on June 22, 2008, 04:08:57 PM
i can agree with that.


Who gives a fuck?  I'm a racist, remember?  It's bad to agree with me.

:roll:

Deal with it.

TGRR,
Was expected to forget all about it, maybe?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Triple Zero

nah not expected .. okay so "racist" was the wrong word, how do you call it then when someone keeps on throwing unfounded insults at random european countries (most notably, the french, the german and the dutch), i mean it wouldn't be half as annoying if the insults were actually funny or clever in some way. and you even seemed to be trying to make a point by saying "we even let the Germans in", as if letting Germans on our forum is something you would have otherwise generally frowned upon.
see normally i just ignore remarks like that, but after seeing it so many times and somehow used as a counterargument to what i was saying, i kinda grew tired of it.

btw, honest question. i've seen people who say bad things about mexicans being labeled as racists in or around these boards, how does that work? mexico is also a country, not a race, right?
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