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The Good Reverend Roger

#60
April 28, 2009, 03:03:46 AM
That's some pretty serious ownage, right there.
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East Coast Hustle

#61
April 28, 2009, 01:21:46 PM
there's no ownage like self-ownage.
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Pope Lecherous

#62
April 28, 2009, 05:49:46 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 28, 2009, 01:21:46 PM
there's no ownage like self-ownage.

Indeed, I dont have any moral problem with the mission but i disagree with torture.

and?
--- War to the knife, knife to the hilt.

LMNO

#63
April 28, 2009, 05:51:50 PM
Perhaps you should clarify what you consider "the mission" to actually be.

Pope Lecherous

#64
April 28, 2009, 06:05:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 28, 2009, 05:51:50 PM
Perhaps you should clarify what you consider "the mission" to actually be.

It is the difference between whatever is told to the masses and what is perceived to be happening on the ground.  Somewhere in the middle exists what is actually happening.  It doesnt bother me.  People's big issue with torture is that it is incongruent with the rhetoric of the state, "values" we are supposed to uphold etc.  Torture must not be used during the course of warfare of this nature.  NO military application.  NOT to be endorsed by the state.  There may be other reasons to torture people, but the military or government has no place doing it.  I do not hold the government liable for the personal conduct of anyone, including its agents.  Professional conduct is a different matter.
--- War to the knife, knife to the hilt.

LMNO

#65
April 28, 2009, 06:11:55 PM
You consider that "clarification"?

WHAT IS "THE MISSION"?

Pope Lecherous

#66
April 28, 2009, 06:19:37 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 28, 2009, 06:11:55 PM
You consider that "clarification"?

WHAT IS "THE MISSION"?

It is BOTH what is preached AND what is actually happening at the same time.  I have issue with neither.  Torture is not the mission.  Torture will not help to accomplish the mission.  Despite it actually happening, that is the conduct of those individuals.  The problem is that the majority of the public consider it to be torture.  So it should end.  I disagree with torture in military or government application simply because it is incongruent with what is being said. and the "mission" is based on what is being said SHOULD happen.
--- War to the knife, knife to the hilt.

LMNO

#67
April 28, 2009, 06:25:38 PM
Quote from: LetchI have no moral problem with "the mission."
Quote from: LMNOWHAT IS "THE MISSION"?
Quote from: LetchIt is BOTH what is preached AND what is actually happening at the same time.

That sounds to me like you agree with the conflation of Iraq with 9/11, and that all Muslims are suspects, and that enemy fighters should not be treated in a manner consistent with the Geneva Convention, and that innocent people should be killed in their homes.


Real nice.

Pope Lecherous

#68
April 28, 2009, 06:34:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 28, 2009, 06:25:38 PM
Quote from: LetchI have no moral problem with "the mission."
Quote from: LMNOWHAT IS "THE MISSION"?
Quote from: LetchIt is BOTH what is preached AND what is actually happening at the same time.

That sounds to me like you agree with the conflation of Iraq with 9/11, and that all Muslims are suspects, and that enemy fighters should not be treated in a manner consistent with the Geneva Convention, and that innocent people should be killed in their homes.


Real nice.

I dont agree with that, any of that.  It is not consistent with what the war is "about", yet it happens.  Mostly because individuals allow it/do it.  The methods to win militarily simply can not be used while maintaining moral "superiority" and instilling the values the government intends to.  The war is not the proper way to handle this problem at all.
--- War to the knife, knife to the hilt.

LMNO

#69
April 28, 2009, 06:39:20 PM
Um.

What was preached was the conflation of Iraq with 9/11.

What was practiced was that all Muslims were treated as suspects.

What was preached was that enemy fighters should not be treated in a manner consistent with the Geneva Convention.

What was practiced was that innocent people were killed in their homes.






Would you like a new shovel?  That one looks pretty beat up.

Dysfunctional Cunt

#70
April 28, 2009, 06:43:29 PM
turnip + 3 = somewhere out there


:mrgreen:


Now I've made as much sense and Lech...


Pope Lecherous

#71
April 28, 2009, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 28, 2009, 06:39:20 PM
Um.

What was preached was the conflation of Iraq with 9/11.

What was practiced was that all Muslims were treated as suspects.

What was preached was that enemy fighters should not be treated in a manner consistent with the Geneva Convention.

What was practiced was that innocent people were killed in their homes.






Would you like a new shovel?  That one looks pretty beat up.

You can be as angry about that as you want.  Each of your statements are true.  You are absolutely right about each point.  Basically it does not upset me, despite my feelings about it.  Homosexual couples get married.  People are angry, people are relieved.  That is a battle won and lost at the same time.  This war, while killing people dangerous to people you and i may care about, does not remove the source of them.  We can get wrapped up in how right or wrong it is, but it doesnt matter in the slightest.  It is not even the correct way to handle the problem.  The real problem.  The problem that the war was meant to address.  I didnt join up because i supported the war or disagreed with it.  Whether i agree or disagree with how it is conducted doesnt matter,  because that DOES NOT MATTER.
--- War to the knife, knife to the hilt.

LMNO

#72
April 28, 2009, 06:53:30 PM
HE'LL BE HERE ALL WEEK, FOLKS!
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:fishhook:

AFK

#73
April 28, 2009, 06:55:46 PM
I am impressed by his ability to say a lot of nothing.  
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Pope Lecherous

#74
April 28, 2009, 06:56:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 28, 2009, 06:53:30 PM
HE'LL BE HERE ALL WEEK, FOLKS!
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:fishhook:

Do you understand at all what i'm getting at?  Is that your way of showing you understand and disapprove  :sad:
--- War to the knife, knife to the hilt.
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