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Started by Cain, August 10, 2009, 07:14:44 AM

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Cain

I'm going to send Kai a hypnotic email to make him sleep.  Its infected with sleep memes too.

LMNO

Oh, that's just.....Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Captain Utopia

Quote from: LMNO on August 11, 2009, 04:59:41 PM
My statement says that you believe a meme will control people's minds.


Your statement says you agree with that.



Now SHUT THE FUCK UP.
So because electrons will play a part in determining who will win the next Superbowl, we shouldn't study electrons?

Of course not. That would be ridiculous. I'm talking about electrons, and you keep getting mad at me about the Superbowl.

Kai

Quote from: fictionpuss on August 11, 2009, 05:39:18 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 11, 2009, 04:59:41 PM
My statement says that you believe a meme will control people's minds.


Your statement says you agree with that.



Now SHUT THE FUCK UP.
So because electrons will play a part in determining who will win the next Superbowl, we shouldn't study electrons?

Of course not. That would be ridiculous. I'm talking about electrons, and you keep getting mad at me about the Superbowl.

Arg.

Fuck this, I'm taking a nap.
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Quote from: fictionpuss on August 11, 2009, 05:39:18 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 11, 2009, 04:59:41 PM
My statement says that you believe a meme will control people's minds.


Your statement says you agree with that.



Now SHUT THE FUCK UP.
So because electrons will play a part in determining who will win the next Superbowl, we shouldn't study electrons?

Of course not. That would be ridiculous. I'm talking about electrons, and you keep getting mad at me about the Superbowl.

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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Quote from: fictionpuss on August 11, 2009, 04:06:34 PM
Quote from: Kai on August 11, 2009, 03:59:57 PM
No. Just no. Please do not start using Emergence poorly as well.
I've been using it for over a decade, so I'm not 'starting' anything.

QFT

LMNO

Quote from: fictionpuss on August 11, 2009, 05:39:18 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 11, 2009, 04:59:41 PM
My statement says that you believe a meme will control people's minds.


Your statement says you agree with that.



Now SHUT THE FUCK UP.
So because electrons will play a part in determining who will win the next Superbowl, we shouldn't study electrons?

Of course not. That would be ridiculous. I'm talking about electrons, and you keep getting mad at me about the Superbowl.

Are you really not getting it?

When I claimed you believed that you think memes control your mind, you accused me of not reading what you posted, but rather I was only paying attention to the supposed strawman argument of others.

I showed you, very concisely, that you have stated in this very thread that you think language is mind control.


As far as electrons and the superbowl go: since the equations involve probability, you obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about.


Captain Utopia

Quote from: LMNO on August 11, 2009, 05:50:23 PM
Are you really not getting it?

When I claimed you believed that you think memes control your mind, you accused me of not reading what you posted, but rather I was only paying attention to the supposed strawman argument of others.

I showed you, very concisely, that you have stated in this very thread that you think language is mind control.
Maybe we have a different understanding of what mind control is? If you mean that in the sense of NLP or that you can make someone kill their granny with a rogue-meme, then no - that would be absolutely retarded - and I have never stated anything of that nature.

But do I think that every input we receive effects our mind in ways we have only barely begun to explore - then yes - I would think that self-explanatory.

Quote from: LMNO on August 11, 2009, 05:50:23 PM
As far as electrons and the superbowl go: since the equations involve probability, you obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Since I perceive the effects of ideas and memes as working in terms of probability - such as "survival of the fittest" describes probability, not a guarantee - then you may see why I perceive the analogy I made as being particularly apt.


LMNO


Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: fictionpuss on August 11, 2009, 06:04:18 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 11, 2009, 05:50:23 PM
Are you really not getting it?

When I claimed you believed that you think memes control your mind, you accused me of not reading what you posted, but rather I was only paying attention to the supposed strawman argument of others.

I showed you, very concisely, that you have stated in this very thread that you think language is mind control.
Maybe we have a different understanding of what mind control is? If you mean that in the sense of NLP or that you can make someone kill their granny with a rogue-meme, then no - that would be absolutely retarded - and I have never stated anything of that nature.

Yes you fucking did, dipshit:

Quote from: fictionpuss on August 10, 2009, 09:01:30 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on August 10, 2009, 08:54:50 PM
We shouldn't get too hung up about the far reaching moral implications of certain statements unless you really think that language is mind control. And if you do, (cram wiggles his fingers, implying a magic spell) STOP THINKING THAT.  :fnord:
Why should I not think like that? Everything I've seen points to that conclusion

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."



AFK

Quote from: fictionpuss on August 11, 2009, 06:04:18 PM
Maybe we have a different understanding of what mind control is? If you mean that in the sense of NLP or that you can make someone kill their granny with a rogue-meme, then no - that would be absolutely retarded - and I have never stated anything of that nature.

But do I think that every input we receive effects our mind in ways we have only barely begun to explore - then yes - I would think that self-explanatory.

Yes, every input.  Which reduces the whole "meme" idea to ashes.  Because there is no discernable difference between the impact of a "meme" and a sharp poke to the eye or a moldy ham sandwhich. 

The moldy ham sandwhich is going to condition me to check my bread in the future before I make a sandwhich.
A sharp poke to the eye might cause me to be wary in certain situation.
A "meme" on a sticker may make me think for a second, but unless it is some earth-shattering revelation, it is going to have hardly any significant impact on my day to day life. 

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Verbal Mike

This thread...is awesomely awful.
And fictionpuss...is fucked up. You seem to only apply this logic to one memebomb, and refute it as applied to every ad absurdum counterargument brought against it in this thread... Real logical, you are.
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