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English Defence League defeated in Harrow

Started by Cain, September 12, 2009, 03:22:49 PM

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Cain

Ha ha!  I only wish I could've been there myself.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/rightwing-protestors-target-harrow-mosque-1785797.html

QuoteHundreds of Asian youths threw rocks, bottles and fireworks at riot police last night as anger over an anti-Muslim demonstration spilled onto the streets of Harrow.

Police made ten arrests and fought a series of skirmishes with masked protesters close to Harrow Central Mosque, which had been targeted by demonstrators.

The demonstration was organised by two groups, the English Defence League and Stop the Islamisation of Europe. It was called off after the first 15 supporters to turn up were chased off by counter-demonstrators who outnumbered them heavily.

Well, that's part of the story.  What actually happened was the first 15 got run off, before the rest had arrived, and the police told them they couldn't protect them, so they decided to call it a day.

The EDL, for those of you who don't know, are a BNP front organisation, whose main aim is to turn their electoral success into street muscle, like the British right had in the 70s and 80s.  They exist to menace, intimidate and use violence against Muslims, ethnic minorities and union members, as part of a misguided belief they are "defending" Britain from "dhimmification".

That they got run off by counter-protests, lead by local Muslims and the UAF, suggests this plan of theirs isn't going too well at all.  Sure, its hardly the Battle of Cable Street, but the EDL is integral to the growth of the BNP (by causing racial polarization through provocative street actions), and if local communities unite and drive them off, then they're not going to get very far at all.

Halfbaked1

Again, I aint English, so i dunno what the rules are there about religious freedom.  That said however, Muslims exist, they proliferate and they want to come to England so the Brits need to be ready to accept them as neighbors and share the collection plates.  Is this more of an anit-immigration thing or a anti-religion thing though?  I mean I am fairly anti-immigration at this point in my life, not cause i don't want more foreigners, but because I want to put the situation on hold till the government can get some kind of immigration reform in place...yeah...like that's gonna happen.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Halfbaked1 on September 15, 2009, 01:10:40 AM
Again, I aint English, so i dunno what the rules are there about religious freedom.  That said however, Muslims exist, they proliferate and they want to come to England so the Brits need to be ready to accept them as neighbors and share the collection plates.  Is this more of an anit-immigration thing or a anti-religion thing though?  I mean I am fairly anti-immigration at this point in my life, not cause i don't want more foreigners, but because I want to put the situation on hold till the government can get some kind of immigration reform in place...yeah...like that's gonna happen.

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English Defence League my fat ass - what we really need defending from is this kind of mean spirited, NIMBY "Dimification".
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Jenne

"Stop the Islamification of Europe"?  :lol:  Lovely.  Not surprised, just :lol: @ the out and out blatant nature of the bigotry.

Cain

Quote from: Halfbaked1 on September 15, 2009, 01:10:40 AM
Again, I aint English, so i dunno what the rules are there about religious freedom.  That said however, Muslims exist, they proliferate and they want to come to England so the Brits need to be ready to accept them as neighbors and share the collection plates.  Is this more of an anit-immigration thing or a anti-religion thing though?  I mean I am fairly anti-immigration at this point in my life, not cause i don't want more foreigners, but because I want to put the situation on hold till the government can get some kind of immigration reform in place...yeah...like that's gonna happen.

Its got nothing to do with immigration at all.  In fact, they claim its to do with "extremism" and terrorism....but the Mosque in Harrow is about as liberal as a "Save the whales" meeting, only with better food.

Its really about Muslims being the new Jews for the nutters on the far-right, who have realised anti-Semitism doesn't sell, but Islamophobia is socially acceptable so long as you mumble some shit about extremism (which is totally different from anti-Semites in the 1920s mumbling about the Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy, because this one is TROO) and about the BNP, the pack of Nazis behind the EDL, realising they can't get much more support without polarising race and religious relations in this country, and wanting the street presence the far-right had in the 70s, where they could intimidate and attack unionists, religious and ethnic minorities and the rest.

Halfbaked1

Quote from: Cain on September 15, 2009, 09:42:13 AM
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on September 15, 2009, 01:10:40 AM
Again, I aint English, so i dunno what the rules are there about religious freedom.  That said however, Muslims exist, they proliferate and they want to come to England so the Brits need to be ready to accept them as neighbors and share the collection plates.  Is this more of an anit-immigration thing or a anti-religion thing though?  I mean I am fairly anti-immigration at this point in my life, not cause i don't want more foreigners, but because I want to put the situation on hold till the government can get some kind of immigration reform in place...yeah...like that's gonna happen.

Its got nothing to do with immigration at all.  In fact, they claim its to do with "extremism" and terrorism....but the Mosque in Harrow is about as liberal as a "Save the whales" meeting, only with better food.

Its really about Muslims being the new Jews for the nutters on the far-right, who have realised anti-Semitism doesn't sell, but Islamophobia is socially acceptable so long as you mumble some shit about extremism (which is totally different from anti-Semites in the 1920s mumbling about the Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy, because this one is TROO) and about the BNP, the pack of Nazis behind the EDL, realising they can't get much more support without polarising race and religious relations in this country, and wanting the street presence the far-right had in the 70s, where they could intimidate and attack unionists, religious and ethnic minorities and the rest.

Oh for the love of my aunt mary's bloomers!  Must we have a whole new target race? Geez I am so sick of this racial/religious crap that people keep bringing out and touting as some political explanation of why they are so much better than someone else.  Hasn't anyone realized that it only makes them appear insecure and weak?

Cain

Only to people who like to think, I am afraid.  I spend far too much time reading comments below newspaper stories, and sadly, their pathetic agitprop seems to be working.

For example

QuoteFence ourselves off from the middle east entirely. Let them live in their Murderous Islamic paradise, But leave us alone.
Stan, Billingsgate

QuoteI am over 80 years old and it is exactly what I fought for! Well done the BNP.
Average Joe, Belfast

QuoteIt's amazing how Labour politicians keep telling us we voted for the BNP because we didn't understand its policies. NO – we voted for the BNP because we're white, we're native British, and we want OUR country back.
Paul

Quoteto be honest i dont care anymore, no matter how much we moan how much this country actually hates labout we will never be able to push them out, they will decide when the election is and nit us, so i just laught now, bleed me dry and penalise me for not being a muslim for not being gay and for not being a pregnant junckie because lets face it these groups get everything from this lot, i just laught as karma is a wonderful thing
[acrobatickenny1], scotland

Quotethe best way to deal with knife crime in the UK is to invent a time machine and go back to the 1950's and prevent them from allowing mass immigration.

Sorry if people find that offensive but look at the statistics for who carry out most of these crimes, it's not the indigenous white population is it?

gilly, london

QuoteThe UK hardly produces any CO2. It's all these blacks in Africa chopping down tree to use firewood for cooking.

Jim Bob, Leeds, United Kingdom

Hurrah for the average Brit!  Racist, ignorant of history and too stupid to understand science.

Jenne

Switch out Amurrican for Brit and you have us to a T.  But then, I've always said scratch the surface and most are just like that.  It's more of a HUMAN condition than a national or cultural one.