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Dear Mr. and Mrs. Angry Older Generation:

Started by Cainad (dec.), October 20, 2009, 11:42:09 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Sir Remington III on October 20, 2009, 11:58:05 PM
Um, hello, older generation.

See, I've got a problem. I inherited the earth, sure, but I think it's broken. May I have another one?


There was this hippie saying that went "we are borrowing the Earth from our children".

Well, it turns out there was no collateral, so we burned it all up and handed you a polluted cinder.

Our bad.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Messier Undertree

Quote from: Cainad on October 20, 2009, 11:42:09 PMin fact you're usually considered something of a social pariah if you don't partake in this modern Soma

I can't help but notice this too. People are literally surprised when I tell them I don't have a Facebook or Twitter account.

Apparently, if you don't have an RSS feed of someone's sleep, food and bathroom schedules, you aren't a real friend.

The Good Reverend Roger

Twitter is bullshit.

Here's some REAL fucking, courtesy of us old bastards:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33377328/ns/business-personal_finance/page/2/

QuoteSo the data is available if you're willing to dig a little. There are plenty of economists and analysts who take issue with the "official" number. John Williams, who runs a Web site called Shadow Government Statistics, does his own calculations each month that adjusts U-6 to include an estimate of the number of "long-term" discouraged workers - those who have been in that category for more than a year - and fall off the BLS radar. By his count, the unemployment rate hit 21.4 percent last month.

Welcome to the new great depression.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: Malachite on October 21, 2009, 12:08:29 AM
Quote from: Cainad on October 20, 2009, 11:42:09 PMin fact you're usually considered something of a social pariah if you don't partake in this modern Soma

I can't help but notice this too. People are literally surprised when I tell them I don't have a Facebook or Twitter account.

Apparently, if you don't have an RSS feed of someone's sleep, food and bathroom schedules, you aren't a real friend.

Whenever I see a Facebook status that says "Goin to bed now" or "brb taking bio quiz" it makes me want to delete the damn account. Probably shouldn't have made one in the first place. I delayed for like 2 years on a MySpace account; probably time to delete that shit too.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 21, 2009, 12:16:10 AM
Twitter is bullshit.

Here's some REAL fucking, courtesy of us old bastards:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33377328/ns/business-personal_finance/page/2/

QuoteSo the data is available if you're willing to dig a little. There are plenty of economists and analysts who take issue with the "official" number. John Williams, who runs a Web site called Shadow Government Statistics, does his own calculations each month that adjusts U-6 to include an estimate of the number of "long-term" discouraged workers - those who have been in that category for more than a year - and fall off the BLS radar. By his count, the unemployment rate hit 21.4 percent last month.

Welcome to the new great depression.

But that's just it. You're talking about real things. You old people may have mixed and baked the shit cake, but now it's our turn, and all that's left for us to do is apply the frosting.

Da6s

Quote from: Cainad on October 20, 2009, 11:42:09 PM
The real world is disappearing underneath our feet and right before our eyes. In modern times the spectacle has replaced the real; the image, the perception of things is all that matters anymore. Nothing we do matters unless you buy the t-shirt and update your Facebook status and take some crappy pictures and text everyone to let them know you bought a t-shirt, updated Facebook and put up some crappy pictures on it.

Personal experiences is no longer enough, We rely on a constant stream of inane babble  to validate our existence. Communication has become so easy and so cheap that there is no longer any real information contained in what we say. For every one message that relates to a real physical happening, there are thousands more that amount to nothing beyond "I'm here. Are you there?"

As social animals it is natural for us to derive pleasure from interacting and communicating with each other. But we've made this communication so freely available--in fact you're usually considered something of a social pariah if you don't partake in this modern Soma--that we've become thoroughly dependent on it even as it becomes less and less satisfying. All this endless chatter is like a shower that never gets quite hot enough, so you twist and turn to get as much of yourself under the lukewarm communication as possible. The air chills your skin and you stay in longer and longer because you keep hoping that eventually the water will heat up and you'll finally feel satisfied and clean and be willing to step out into the chilly air. But there's no external power, no reality heating the water; it's just the heat of thousands of other tepid bodies, everyone showering with each other's runoff so it never gets above body temperature and we never get clean.

My generation has destroyed information. The world ends not in fire or in ice, it ends not with a bang or a whimper...

But with a Tweet.


Is it bad that this gave me the warm fuzzies?
We appear to be doomed by our DNA to repeat the same destructive behaviors our forebears have repeated for millenia. If anything our problem solving skills have actually diminished with the advent of technology & our ubiquitous modern conveniences. & yet despite our predisposition towards fear-driven hostility; towards what we anachronistically term primitive behavior another instinct is just as firmly encoded in our make-up. We are capable as our ancestors were of incredible breathtaking acts of kindness. Every hour of every day a man risks his life at a moments notice to save another. Forget for a moment the belligerent benevolent billionaires who grant the unfortunate a crumb of costfree cake. I speak of pure acts of selflessness. A Mother who rushes into the street to save a child from a speeding vehicle. A person who runs into a burning building to reach a family trapped on the upper story. Such actions,such moments,such unconscious selfless decisions,define what it is to be human

Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: Da6s on October 21, 2009, 12:29:56 AM
Is it bad that this gave me the warm fuzzies?

No, but the fact that you touched yourself because of it... nope, still not bad.



Also, this should probably be moved to OKM. I just wanted to be cool like all the other kids who were ranting in Apple Talk.

Da6s

Quote from: Cainad on October 21, 2009, 12:33:26 AM
Quote from: Da6s on October 21, 2009, 12:29:56 AM
Is it bad that this gave me the warm fuzzies?

No, but the fact that you touched yourself because of it... nope, still not bad.



Also, this should probably be moved to OKM. I just wanted to be cool like all the other kids who were ranting in Apple Talk.


I can't honestly complain about the value of worthwhile conversation and how it has gone up tremendously.

I wonder how that factors into net-worth.
We appear to be doomed by our DNA to repeat the same destructive behaviors our forebears have repeated for millenia. If anything our problem solving skills have actually diminished with the advent of technology & our ubiquitous modern conveniences. & yet despite our predisposition towards fear-driven hostility; towards what we anachronistically term primitive behavior another instinct is just as firmly encoded in our make-up. We are capable as our ancestors were of incredible breathtaking acts of kindness. Every hour of every day a man risks his life at a moments notice to save another. Forget for a moment the belligerent benevolent billionaires who grant the unfortunate a crumb of costfree cake. I speak of pure acts of selflessness. A Mother who rushes into the street to save a child from a speeding vehicle. A person who runs into a burning building to reach a family trapped on the upper story. Such actions,such moments,such unconscious selfless decisions,define what it is to be human

Pariah

The good people I know don't have Twitter
The very best people I know don't have a Facebook
Play safe! Ski only in a clockwise direction! Let's all have fun together!

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Twitter and Facebook both make me laugh

but then, I only read posts by people I think are funny.

Also Facebook is startlingly effective for organizing and inviting people to events. If you don't know how to use such media effectively, it might be a sign that you're not trying.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Corvidia

Quote from: Nigel on October 21, 2009, 01:47:41 AM
I still wish my mom wasn't on it, though.
That was so awkward when my mom had one.

I have one because my friends and relatives are scattered across the country and Europe and I find it easier to keep in touch with them with Facebook.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 20, 2009, 11:49:17 PM
Yep.  And the "middle" between my generation and my father's generation is most at fault (people that are 50-55 right now).  The boomers get a bad rap.
^ This. My parents are that age (they turned 54 this year) and my father agrees with you there, TGRR.


Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 20, 2009, 11:56:23 PM
We've also been sure to have WAY too many kids, world-wide.  Now the planet is turning into desert.

You're welcome.
Or so polluted with toxic chemicals that breathing kills you, one brain cell at a time.
One for sorrow,
Two for joy,
Three for a girl,
Four for a boy,
Five for silver,
Six for gold,
Seven for a secret never to be told.

Requia ☣

Quote from: Corvidia on October 21, 2009, 02:18:47 AM
Or so polluted with toxic chemicals that breathing kills you, one brain cell at a time.

So thats where all those brain cells went.
Inflatable dolls are not recognized flotation devices.

Jenne

Quote from: Corvidia on October 21, 2009, 02:18:47 AM

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 20, 2009, 11:49:17 PM
Yep.  And the "middle" between my generation and my father's generation is most at fault (people that are 50-55 right now).  The boomers get a bad rap.
^ This. My parents are that age (they turned 54 this year) and my father agrees with you there, TGRR.


My own parents turned 54 this year, and they consider themselves Boomers.  I know they're more of a later-in-the-generation Boomer, but they totally relate to their decade-older-elders.

Corvidia

Mine, too, I think. But they apparently never went through the hippy-dippy liberal stage, so I wonder if that has something to do with it. Though ironically, it's my mother (who comes from the more liberal of two sides) who's the most conservative. My dad's family is traditionally Southern in a lot of ways and he, aside from his Builderberg delusions, is the more liberal one nowadays.

Aren't both our parents Boomers anyway? 1955 is mid-generation, I thought.
One for sorrow,
Two for joy,
Three for a girl,
Four for a boy,
Five for silver,
Six for gold,
Seven for a secret never to be told.

Nast

My grandma is all like "Kids these days, they're at least 100 times worst than my generation!"
And then we're all like, "But grandma, didn't your generation cause and participate in the deadliest conflict in human history?"

or

My mom is like "Young people these days are just always engaged in such terrible activities!"
And then we're all like "But wasn't your generation engaged in being hippies?"
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