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ITT, Suu shits her hate about Hollywood costuming.

Started by LMNO, November 10, 2009, 04:42:09 PM

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Suu

Quote from: Suu on November 10, 2009, 04:52:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 10, 2009, 04:48:43 PM
Elizabeth: The Golden Age

Better than the first one! But still a lot of WTFs.



WTF IS THIS?! HOLY FUCKING SHIT. GOOD GOD NOT ONLY WAS THAT COLOR BLUE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DIE, EVEN FOR THE LATE 1500S SHE WOULD HAVE HAD SLEEVES. THIS IS ENGLAND! NOT FUCKING VENICE. VENICE GOT AWAY WITH COSTUME MURDER!!! ENGLAND WAS FUCKING COLD! SLEEVES! NOT ORGANZA!

Look at the lack of rigidity in that bodice? Where is her corset? How is her dress buckling like that? It shouldn't be happening. She should have a piece of wood shoved down the front of her body to keep it flat and straight. Gah. That's gross.

I have to come back to this one for a section...

PARTLETS ARE NOT ONE PIECE. MINE IS, BUT I CHEATED. SHHHH...

Quote from: LMNO on November 10, 2009, 04:55:11 PM
Shakespear in Love

IF THEY DIDN'T USE A FUCKING SIMPLICITY PATTERN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OKAY.



Bodice also always matched the dress. Always. No support in the dress (probably because Paltrow is too thin for it), inset attached sleeves. Fail. The girl behind her is wearing a dress that's 50 years out of date.



Elizabeth, however, looked fucking AWESOME.



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Quote from: Cramulus on November 10, 2009, 04:57:18 PM
The Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatriot

the extra features on the dvd they talk to the costume designer and show her using actual period pieces from the Smithsonian to work from ... no guarantee it makes it accurate or that all the costumes were but the military uniforms were based on real ones..
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Suu

Quote from: Doctor Rat Bastard on November 10, 2009, 04:57:56 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 10, 2009, 04:48:11 PM
Quote from: Doctor Rat Bastard on November 10, 2009, 04:45:45 PM
Dangerous Beauty

Accurate (even down to the partlets for Veronica and Paola) for almost anyone but the courtesans. I have no idea where they pulled that shit from. The women's clothing was heavily based on Eleanor of Toledo's gowns, and sometimes the overuse of leather on the men bother me. But I get over it. The movie is awesome.

I concur. I particularly thought the one dress worn by the protagonist that showed her mens breeches underneath was probably on the far side of unlikely... sure they wore boys underwear, but they didn't walk around with them hanging out.

On the upside, that costume inspired Sjaantze's first fencing garb. She walked into the lists, paused, untied the bow on her skirt which became a soft parry and she was in her "undies" (codpiece and all).  :lulz:

She won a couple tournaments like that.

Actually! Vecellio's has a plate that shows a courtesan wearing breaches!! I nearly died when I saw it. That part is accurate.

Quote from: Cramulus on November 10, 2009, 04:57:18 PM
The Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatriot

It's impossible to fuck up Revolutionary garb. There's too much of it still existing as well as patterns. Chances are though they cut some corners, not that I would want to run around in layers of wool and linen while filming either, mind you...
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Quote from: Suu on November 10, 2009, 05:04:18 PM
Quote from: Doctor Rat Bastard on November 10, 2009, 04:57:56 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 10, 2009, 04:48:11 PM
Quote from: Doctor Rat Bastard on November 10, 2009, 04:45:45 PM
Dangerous Beauty

Accurate (even down to the partlets for Veronica and Paola) for almost anyone but the courtesans. I have no idea where they pulled that shit from. The women's clothing was heavily based on Eleanor of Toledo's gowns, and sometimes the overuse of leather on the men bother me. But I get over it. The movie is awesome.

I concur. I particularly thought the one dress worn by the protagonist that showed her mens breeches underneath was probably on the far side of unlikely... sure they wore boys underwear, but they didn't walk around with them hanging out.

On the upside, that costume inspired Sjaantze's first fencing garb. She walked into the lists, paused, untied the bow on her skirt which became a soft parry and she was in her "undies" (codpiece and all).  :lulz:

She won a couple tournaments like that.

Actually! Vecellio's has a plate that shows a courtesan wearing breaches!! I nearly died when I saw it. That part is accurate.


Oh yes, I know that... it was her split skirt which showed the undies which made it rather incredulous. Also, I love the courtesan platform shoes ;-)
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Suu

What bothered me more was the fact that the skirt came OFF. That should be attached to the bodice. And the crinoline underneath it instead of a bum roll or hard cartridge pleats for shape?  :roll:

Platform shoes = Chopines. I really want a pair, not just courtesans wore them. They were popular to keep your feet out of the mud, and the practice had been stolen borrowed from the Ottomans and their nalin. And since I tend to wear a good amount of Ottoman garb, a little lift wouldn't hurt.
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Fuquad

THE WORST FORUM ON THE INTERNET

Suu

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Suu

Quote from: LMNO on November 10, 2009, 05:26:00 PM
Get ready for it...


Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992)


Very Neo-Victorian/Steampunk. Accurate in appearance  but not something I would consider 100% accurate when it comes to materials. You're taking a gothic novel and making a gothic interpretation, fiction to fiction, if you will. Plus, it has Tom Waits as Renfield, you can't really not like it.
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Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."


Dimocritus

Quote from: Suu on November 10, 2009, 05:30:39 PM
Very Neo-Victorian/Steampunk. Accurate in appearance  but not something I would consider 100% accurate when it comes to materials. You're taking a gothic novel and making a gothic interpretation, fiction to fiction, if you will. Plus, it has Tom Waits as Renfield, you can't really not like it.

Yes!

Also, trick question:

The Village.
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Suu

Quote from: dimo on November 10, 2009, 05:33:50 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 10, 2009, 05:30:39 PM
Very Neo-Victorian/Steampunk. Accurate in appearance  but not something I would consider 100% accurate when it comes to materials. You're taking a gothic novel and making a gothic interpretation, fiction to fiction, if you will. Plus, it has Tom Waits as Renfield, you can't really not like it.

Yes!

Also, trick question:

The Village.


No gripe. Try again.

Quote from: Cramulus on November 10, 2009, 05:34:02 PM
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Quote from: LMNO on November 10, 2009, 05:34:26 PM
Needs moar hate.


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