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Started by Hangshai, December 26, 2009, 07:29:25 PM

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Quote from: BAI on December 29, 2009, 05:02:47 AM
http://www.steorn.com/orbo/

this ones on demo in Ireland.

Shame they wont say how it works. And that the demonstration is not doing nothing we could fap out with a 9v battery some magnets and a little copper ring or three for some wireless power antics.

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Oh yeah, those guys. The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe does an update about them every 9 months or so. For instance:

http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=1362

QuoteWell – Steorn is back in the news again with a slick ad campaign and fresh promises about a demonstration. This video by Steorn pushes me in the direction of concluding the latter – that Steorn knows exactly what they are doing.

Rather than addressing the concerns of their critics, they have chosen to mock them – ironically embracing the terms used to mock Steorn's claims. It's a clever gambit – too clever, if you know what I mean. For example, they show their Orbo engine happily spinning away, and then quotes from critics calling the technology "fairy-powered" and "powered by blarney." It is a version of the Galileo gambit – trying to make it seem as if those who are criticizing your pseudoscience are simply blind to your visionary genius. Michio Kaku says Orbo is a "fraud", but here it is "working."

Nice try, Steorn.

The bottom line is the same – generate demonstrable usable energy, or there is no other reasonable conclusion than your technology is a fraud. Showing a motor spinning is useless, until independent scientists can satisfy themselves that the motor is truly over-unity – that all sources and outputs of energy have been accounted for.

After viewing Steorn's explanation of the technology, I am totally underwhelmed. It's just another magnet scheme – really, Steorn, that's it? Magnets? They hook up a motor to a battery. The battery spins the motor, which they also hook up to a generator, which returns some of the energy back to the battery. Wow. This is not even an original free energy scam. This is old-school nonsense in slick new packaging. And yet they would have us believe that this simple scheme has somehow broken the laws of physics.
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Hangshai

Thanks everyone, thats exactly why I posted the link.  I appreciate all of your insights.  It sounds like a great idea, and I had a feeling that if it was a plausible device then why arent there more of them or whatever, why isnt EVERYONE using them...

So, this just brings me to another question; has anyone heard of the Tesla electric motor that Tesla supposedly invented and took to an oval track.  He then proceeded to attach the small generator to the engine of a car somehow, and this device apparently worked by picking up ambient electricity in the air and atmosphere around the car, using this electricity to propel it.  Then he got mad for some reason, took his toys and went home, and no one has ever been able to repeat his results.  Does that ring any bells?
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RF interference. 
X-ray generation.  Or maybe that's fluorescent lights.

LMNO

From what I gather (i.e. I haven't read up on it recently), the Tesla thing works, but it's not an over unity device because it relies on a transmitter to provide the power.  But I'm not sure if that's the question you were asking.


Ok, a quick search shows that wireless energy transfer is indeed possible, and technologies are still being developed.

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Quote from: LMNO on January 04, 2010, 03:17:22 PM
Ok, a quick search shows that wireless energy transfer is indeed possible, and technologies are still being developed.
well duh, its what a lightbulb and a solar panel will do.
the trick is to make it efficient.
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Elder Iptuous

inductive charging of device batteries are slated to be ubiquitous within the next couple of years. (available on a few early adopter models already, i thought...)
that's wireless power.

Triple Zero

in a similar manner, my foot up your ass is also wireless energy transfer.
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Quote from: Iptuous on January 05, 2010, 01:29:04 PM
inductive charging of device batteries are slated to be ubiquitous within the next couple of years. (available on a few early adopter models already, i thought...)
that's wireless power.


That's what Tesla said, about a century ago :(


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Triple Zero

Quote from: Iptuous on January 05, 2010, 02:14:50 PM
:lol: :| :?

Ok unless you count shoelaces, perhaps.

But they have velcro for that!
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Oh...
Ok.
For a bit I thought there was actual antagonism, which didn't seem to fit...

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regardless of whether it fits or not the prospect of velcro being stuck in my ass hair is not pretty...

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Quote from: Triple Zero on January 05, 2010, 04:28:45 PM
Well, if the shoe fits ...

... it probably doesn't have metal-filament laces.


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Whilst I agree that over unity or zero point is pie in the sky, physics defying bullshit there's something that not a lot of people have cottoned on to. Build a device that's as close to zero point as you can get then add a solar panel and a small wind turbine to the circuit.

Bingo - free energy the cheats way.

There's a lot of real fucking efficient motors out there these days - doesn't take much to tip the balance. All perpetual motion needs is a little push :wink:

I ran this by my mate, who's into all this magnetic induction bullshit. "Yeah but that isn't genuinely zero point - you're cheating".

"The objective isn't zero-point, dumbass - it's powering my house for fuck-all"




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