Don't Set Your Sights TOO High, Little Johnny

[Zenpeanut]

At around head start/preschool age, I had one of those 3 wheel things, then kindergarten-2nd grade was an actual albeit dull as hell sword and video games, and then I got moved to Seattle with my dad and replaced the sword with a very large collection of sticks.

[P3nT4gR4m]

My favourite toy was a length of rope. We'd tie it to the branch of a tree and swing on the fucker. The longer the length the higher the tree you could use, the better the swing. Then came the games - Knifey, where you'd swing out then swing back as far as you could and stick a knife in the ground. Next person had to swing back far enough to grab your knife and stick it in even further back. Sometimes we'd use other trees instead of the ground to stick the knife in.

Of course nowadays five year old kids aren't allowed rope cos it represents a choking hazard and even the fucking adults aren't allowed to carry blades anymore. I'm with the late St Carlin - We are dealing with the pussification of western society and personally I'm all in favour - the more lame and/or retarded society becomes the more edge it gives me. The easier it becomes to just do whatever the fuck I please cos sooner or later there's going to be no one left capable of stopping me.

[The Johnny]

In my context, id rather have people not carrying knives; it seems nobody has a capacity to know when its appropiate to use them (i.e. "THAT FUCKER CUT ME OFF IN TRAFFICK <PULLS OUT KNIFE>).

[P3nT4gR4m]

Well in this country it's illegal so only the criminals are armed. Law abiding citizens are not allowed to defend themselves, they have to wait for the police to turn up, then try to describe the person who fatally stabbed them.

[The Johnny]

Pulling a weapon on someone that attacks you, to me it seems way riskier... if one doesnt make a good assesment quickly on if things are "even" or there are more guys assiting it, you could infuriate and incite their anti-social urges, and instead of just getting robbed, you end up getting killed. I.E., you pull a taser on some tough guy, and the guy overcomes you, that taser is likely going into you.

I wish i could agree that everyone having weapons would solve a lot of problems.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Pulling a weapon on someone that attacks you, to me it seems way riskier... if one doesnt make a good assesment quickly on if things are "even" or there are more guys assiting it, you could infuriate and incite their anti-social urges, and instead of just getting robbed, you end up getting killed. I.E., you pull a taser on some tough guy, and the guy overcomes you, that taser is likely going into you.

I wish i could agree that everyone having weapons would solve a lot of problems.

As opposed to a situation where only the bad-guys have weapons I'd consider it favourable. Also I agree with you - a lot of idiots would probably die. Unlike you, I don't see this as an altogether bad thing 

[The Johnny]

Even if i get robbed wipe-out style (like naked style), i calculate at most im carrying $642 worth on goods.

Id rather lose those $642 than raise my probability of getting killed; can we really tell that quick if we ran into a "dog with sharper teeth"?

In my house id like a gun, because if someone was as brazen to break in while im there, im sure their scruples about hurting me would be much less.

Basicly im giving real examples to counter theory; you would risk your life, for the $$$ worth of goods you usually carry around?

[P3nT4gR4m]

Let me tell you a bit about scotland. Most of our violent crime has nothing to do with money. The kids round here like to attack people just to see the look on their face. If some grinning little twat comes at me with a blade, sure I can take him down but it's a lot easier if I have something pointy myself. You up the ante to three or four crowding you and having a blade handy might be your only way out of being stomped to death.

[The Johnny]

Yeah, i can see where your coming from.

Down here we have kidnappers, and that has a lot of parallels (most never go back); fortunately, that has decreased in the last 5 years (i think).

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Around here we mostly just have a lot of rape.

That park 1/2 block from my house used to be Rape Park, but I just looked up the statistics and there have apparently been no rapes reported in my neighborhood since I moved in.

[East Coast Hustle]

but I just looked up the statistics and there have apparently been no rapes reported in my neighborhood since I moved in.

coincidence?

[Requia ☣]

Statistically speaking, people are *less* likely to end up dead or in the hospital if they fight back, especially if they have a weapon to fight back with.  (This is specific to the UK, I haven't seen any American numbers)

Of course, there are a lot of dipshits out there who would take that to mean its a good idea to fight back when there's a knife at your throat.  The situation is everything.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

but I just looked up the statistics and there have apparently been no rapes reported in my neighborhood since I moved in.

coincidence?

[East Coast Hustle]

HIMEOBS: It Deters Rape.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

HIMEOBS: YOU CANNOT RAPE CLANDESTINELY ENOUGH.