Renamed: GOD. DAMN. IT.

[Doktor Howl]

1.  It's a scam.

2.  It's a scam.

[Freeky]

It's a paying scam, which is all I'm concerned about at the moment, but it makes me less worried that I'm being petty and selfish for wanting to quit before I even started.

And it's a scam where I don't have to do the legwork. :woot:

[Doktor Howl]

It's a paying scam,

Is it?

Describe precisely how this job works. The moment they associated themselves with Cutco, alarm bells started going off (it is actually impossible to succeed at CutCo, in case you didn't know).

[Dysnomia]

IT'S A TRAP


Get different job.  Have you tried craigslist, or a local employment agency?

[Freeky]

It's a paying scam,

Is it?

Describe precisely how this job works. The moment they associated themselves with Cutco, alarm bells started going off (it is actually impossible to succeed at CutCo, in case you didn't know).

(Yeah, I know. That's why I quit early on. Got some nice knives out of the deal, though.)

Their call center calls a particular area code, looking for customers. They make appointments. My boss puts me, 6 other people, and enough carpet cleaners for one each of us into a van. I go to a house, put on a show for the people, and they maybe ask me questions. If they decide they want to buy, a sales dude comes in and makes the deal. Rinse and repeat. Basically, I'm there to make it look pretty, like one of the girls on Price Is Right.

Get different job.  Have you tried craigslist, or a local employment agency?

My mom found this on Craigslist.  Funny enough, CutCo advertises on CareerBuilders. The name they go by is Vector Ent.

[Doktor Howl]

It's a paying scam,

Is it?

Describe precisely how this job works. The moment they associated themselves with Cutco, alarm bells started going off (it is actually impossible to succeed at CutCo, in case you didn't know).

(Yeah, I know. That's why I quit early on. Got some nice knives out of the deal, though.)

Their call center calls a particular area code, looking for customers. They make appointments. My boss puts me, 6 other people, and enough carpet cleaners for one each of us into a van. I go to a house, put on a show for the people, and they maybe ask me questions. If they decide they want to buy, a sales dude comes in and makes the deal. Rinse and repeat. Basically, I'm there to make it look pretty, like one of the girls on Price Is Right.

Get different job.  Have you tried craigslist, or a local employment agency?

My mom found this on Craigslist.  Funny enough, CutCo advertises on CareerBuilders. The name they go by is Vector Ent.

PM me the name of the company, and I'll do a little digging.  Can't hurt.

[Sir Squid Diddimus]

Oh lord.
I work 10-12 hours shifts many days and rarely see my son. But he's a teenager and can handle that. Yours needs constant attention at his age.
The pay they want to give you (if they even give you that) is not worth the time you'll lose with your son.
The best thing you could do is try your damnedest to find a regular 8 hour job from morning to evening. It sucks working that many hours 6 days a week ...

if you do the math, it comes out to you working about 60 hours a week (10 hour days), which is 240 hours a month, when you divide that by the 1600 bucks they wanna pay you, take a look at the hourly figure... $6.67.
What's your minimum wage? That's about a dollar under mine here.
Oh here:

"At a public meeting held on October 7, 2009, the Industrial Commission of Arizona determined that Arizona's minimum wage of $7.25 per hour would be maintained for calendar year 2010. Arizona's minimum wage will not increase in 2010 because the CPI-U decreased and the Minimum Wage Act does not provide for a decrease in the Arizona minimum wage. Maintaining the Arizona minimum wage at $7.25 per hour rate means that Arizona's minimum wage will continue to be the same as the federal minimum wage of $7.25 through 2010. "
From the workforce website (i guess it is)
http://www.workforce.az.gov/

So they wanna overwork you and underpay you. Awesome.

[Freeky]

I know, Squiddy. I know. But $1600, from my perspective, is a fuckton of money that I don't have right now.

[Suu]

My sister did some Vector work one summer. They're legit and aimed primarily at students who need short term work. However, it's a lot of work, but you will get paid and there is commission.

[Freeky]

Yeah, I remember getting paid, too. Just not a lot, and I couldn't get anyone to give me references.

[Sir Squid Diddimus]

I'm just taking into consideration the cost of your time.
Are they paying you enough for the time you'll lose with your son?
is it worth $1600 a month to miss out on all the little things?

That's what I'm looking at.
I mean sure, the 1600 bucks sound better than $00, but you could make more at a fast food restaurant and work fewer hours.

You could technically take this job on while looking for another one, bt the only time you'll have to interview would be sundays or late nights. I'm not trying to be a Debby Downer, I just think the mother being around as much as possible with the little ones is super fucking important.

[Freeky]

I'm just taking into consideration the cost of your time.
Are they paying you enough for the time you'll lose with your son?
is it worth $1600 a month to miss out on all the little things?

That's what I'm looking at.
I mean sure, the 1600 bucks sound better than $00, but you could make more at a fast food restaurant and work fewer hours.

You could technically take this job on while looking for another one, bt the only time you'll have to interview would be sundays or late nights. I'm not trying to be a Debby Downer, I just think the mother being around as much as possible with the little ones is super fucking important.

I totally agree with you. I'm only doing this for a month, but I know it's going to kill me, not being around.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Don't take it.

It will make you exhausted and Monkey neurotic, and you'll both be miserable. You could make more money (a lot more) doing phone sex just a few hours a week, and be less stressed out.

[Cain]

It sounds dodgy.  Also, I'm pretty sure that $1600 has never actually been made by anyone there, at least in a single month.  With commission based jobs, they always give the highest theoretical earnings you can make, in the advertising.  This assumes nearly godlike sales abilities and endless amounts of effort, which no-one actually has.  I remember one job I applied to where I could make, in theory, 15-18k a year.  It was minimum wage, with a pathetic commission based bonus.  I did the math and you'd need to make one sale every 20 minutes, every day, to actually earn that amount.  I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be the same. 

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

Freeky maybe being the local Avon lady might pay better dividends, and give you more time with monkey. also you can take the stroller and monkey with you when you do the deliveries.