Lewis Carroll: WOMAN

[Cramulus]

I was talking to Payne about the author Lewis Carroll, and I learned something very interesting...

Cram   I don't know much about the guy
Cram   other than that he loved math and hid a lot of it in the books
Payne   well this is it
Payne   he WASN'T a guy
Payne   his transparent effort to hide the fact that he was really a woman, for example
Payne   cause you know he just switched his first and last names, right?
Payne   cause who the fuck has a surname first and a first name second?
Idem   are you guys talking about ayn rand
Payne   CAROL FUCKING LEWIS, BITCHES
Payne   well
Fred   i thought his real name was charles or somethin
Cram   wasn't that kind of common in that era?
Cram   because women didn't write books
Payne   maybe Men really being Women was
Payne   not to mention his infamous Chain Dancing Video

Cram   so is it just because he has a woman's first name as his last name?
Payne   yes
Payne   he just switched his names


after processing these data, I had a revelation...


Cram   OMG
Cram   ANNE FRANK IS REALLY A MAN

[Cramulus]

also....

FRANK HERBERT IS REALLY A MAN

[hooplala]

How does him being a pedophile fit into this?

[Cramulus]

How does him being a pedophile fit into this?

it's part of his (her?) identity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Carroll_identity

The Lewis Carroll identity is an identity involving minors

[Cramulus]

Once you detect this custom of renaming yourself to obfuscate your identity, you start to see it everywhere...


zerogravitytits   george washington was an obsessive washer
zerogravitytits   also, a hemp smoker
Idem   jane austen is really a city

JAMES GARFIELD IS REALLY A CAT

Idem   abe lincoln is really a toy
Payne   GEORGE BUSH IS REALLY AN UNTRIMMED PUBIC HAIRS

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

  Oh, fuck!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

How does him being a pedophile fit into this?

I really don't think he was. There is, as many people have pointed out, no evidence that he molested or was even sexually attracted to little girls, and some evidence that his "indiscretions" tended to be adulterous, which would have been a great deal more scandalous at the time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/07/books/the-close-reader-what-was-on-lewis-carroll-s-mind.html?pagewanted=1

[Eater of Clowns]

As I understand it he was in love with Alice Littell, maybe infatuated.  It might not have progressed beyond that admiration to an actual physical relationship.

[hooplala]

How does him being a pedophile fit into this?

I really don't think he was. There is, as many people have pointed out, no evidence that he molested or was even sexually attracted to little girls, and some evidence that his "indiscretions" tended to be adulterous, which would have been a great deal more scandalous at the time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/07/books/the-close-reader-what-was-on-lewis-carroll-s-mind.html?pagewanted=1

Naw, I don't think he was.  I was just joshing.

A lot of people have no idea how prevalent images of nude children were in the Victorian age.

[Cramulus]

but but but

The Lewis Carroll identity is an identity involving minors

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

How does him being a pedophile fit into this?

I really don't think he was. There is, as many people have pointed out, no evidence that he molested or was even sexually attracted to little girls, and some evidence that his "indiscretions" tended to be adulterous, which would have been a great deal more scandalous at the time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/07/books/the-close-reader-what-was-on-lewis-carroll-s-mind.html?pagewanted=1

Naw, I don't think he was.  I was just joshing.

A lot of people have no idea how prevalent images of nude children were in the Victorian age.

Oh, OK. It's not really relevant to the hilarity of this thread anyway, sorry for derailing!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

but but but

The Lewis Carroll identity is an identity involving minors

You will not go unpunished!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

As I understand it he was in love with Alice Littell, maybe infatuated.  It might not have progressed beyond that admiration to an actual physical relationship.

There's really no evidence of that, although there is some circumstantial evidence that he may have been in love with her mother.

[Faust]

Wasn't he the one who has gang raped by four boys in his boarding school? Not that that necessarily has any impact on him being a paedophile or not.

[Cramulus]

Wasn't he the one who has gang raped by four boys in his boarding school? Not that that necessarily has any impact on him being a paedophile or not.

a surprising number of literary figures were gangbang victims