So how big is the oil spill anyway?

[Doktor Howl]

I love wind turbines. And photovoltaics. Much less damage to ecosystems than mining and burning fuels.

Once you get a turbine set up, it lasts as long as you maintain it. Free energy, people.

Bosh.  In Tucson, we burn whatever we can cram in the boilers.

It only makes a third of the city smell like a burning tire.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I would so rather see that, than this:


They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.

Looks like a coal plant, in which case yes, the stacks on the right are belching smoke.

[Doktor Howl]

I would so rather see that, than this:


They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.

Looks like a coal plant, in which case yes, the stacks on the right are belching smoke.

We have NO SCRUBBERS OR BAGHOUSES on our "burn all" plant.  It's older than my dad, and grandfathered against the EPA to hell and gone.

[Elder Iptuous]

Looks like a coal plant, in which case yes, the stacks on the right are belching smoke.

i was thinking that those type of cooling towers were only on nuke plants, but quick gooogling shows that i'm wrong....
i guess if it was nuke, there wouldn't be the stacks on the right at all, huh?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Looks like a coal plant, in which case yes, the stacks on the right are belching smoke.

i was thinking that those type of cooling towers were only on nuke plants, but quick gooogling shows that i'm wrong....
i guess if it was nuke, there wouldn't be the stacks on the right at all, huh?

Correct, and the cooling towers would be quite a bit larger.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I would so rather see that, than this:


They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.

Looks like a coal plant, in which case yes, the stacks on the right are belching smoke.

We have NO SCRUBBERS OR BAGHOUSES on our "burn all" plant.  It's older than my dad, and grandfathered against the EPA to hell and gone.

[Doktor Howl]

I would so rather see that, than this:


They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.

Looks like a coal plant, in which case yes, the stacks on the right are belching smoke.

We have NO SCRUBBERS OR BAGHOUSES on our "burn all" plant.  It's older than my dad, and grandfathered against the EPA to hell and gone.

Half a million bucks, and I could cut their emissions in half.

2 million bucks, and you'd never smell the plant, even when they're shoveling animal corpses through it.

[Jenne]

...nobody's mentioning mah San Onofre boobs...

[Doktor Howl]

...nobody's mentioning mah San Onofre boobs...

You got a hotlinking error.

[Jenne]

...nobody's mentioning mah San Onofre boobs...

You got a hotlinking error.

Ah.  I saw it, that's why I thought it was ok, will go fix.   

ETA: IS FIX

[Sir Squid Diddimus]

I would so rather see that, than this:


They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.

Yeah, it's steam, and actually quite safe given the safeguards on nuclear reactors these days.

The problems are: Incredibly expensive, and dangerous waste products you can't put anywhere.

Sure it's steam. Brown and grey steam. I can see this thing every day when I drive to work. It's an eyesore. And this plant has had the EPA down it's throats forever.
And whatever is chuggin out of it's pipes is NOT clean or safe. Before 9-11 we could drive right up to the thing. I got a bunch of pics when I was in HS.
Deer drinking out of the water around the thing made me sad. (man made river/pond thing)

[Elder Iptuous]

Deer drinking out of the water around the thing made me sad. (man made river/pond thing)

don't the ponds that the hot water goes into have some strange bacteria/algae in it due to the elevated temperatures?

[Sir Squid Diddimus]

Most likely, even worse in this swamp I'm sure. You leave a cup of water outside in this heat for a day and you've grown a new civilization.

[Doktor Howl]

Most likely, even worse in this swamp I'm sure. You leave a cup of water outside in this heat for a day and you've grown a new civilization.

That blows even worse than here.  Here, you leave a cup of water outside for a day, and you have a dry, brittle, faded cup.

[Kai]

I would so rather see that, than this:


They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.

Yeah, it's steam, and actually quite safe given the safeguards on nuclear reactors these days.

The problems are: Incredibly expensive, and dangerous waste products you can't put anywhere.

Sure it's steam. Brown and grey steam. I can see this thing every day when I drive to work. It's an eyesore. And this plant has had the EPA down it's throats forever.
And whatever is chuggin out of it's pipes is NOT clean or safe. Before 9-11 we could drive right up to the thing. I got a bunch of pics when I was in HS.
Deer drinking out of the water around the thing made me sad. (man made river/pond thing)

It' was my mistake. The towers on the left are for cooling steam. The towers on the right are letting out smoke.