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Cramulus

PE's only been nice to me. we've had a few discussions away from this board which were quite pleasant. She certainly hasn't come off as a racist nazi.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 04, 2010, 08:17:39 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 04, 2010, 08:06:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 04, 2010, 07:38:23 PM
It means that we have to accept abusive trolls as equals (or, in Cram's opinion, our superiors). 

quit putting words in my mouth

am I not allowed to like Purple Eris?

Sure.  And since your criteria for liking someone seems to be that person's ability to shower non-stop abuse, misrepresentations, and the most hurtful comments possible onto people for two years, I figured I'd try to be your pal by doing those very things.

wow you actually nailed my "criteria" right on the head

I'm sorry if I'm not sticking around for the rage of the week though, got a weekend of camping ahead of me

if you want I can post my facebook friends list before I go though, I'm sure you can find some other reasons to flip out

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cramulus on June 04, 2010, 08:29:11 PM
PE's only been nice to me. we've had a few discussions away from this board which were quite pleasant. She certainly hasn't come off as a racist nazi.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 04, 2010, 08:17:39 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 04, 2010, 08:06:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 04, 2010, 07:38:23 PM
It means that we have to accept abusive trolls as equals (or, in Cram's opinion, our superiors). 

quit putting words in my mouth

am I not allowed to like Purple Eris?

Sure.  And since your criteria for liking someone seems to be that person's ability to shower non-stop abuse, misrepresentations, and the most hurtful comments possible onto people for two years, I figured I'd try to be your pal by doing those very things.

wow you actually nailed my "criteria" right on the head

I'm sorry if I'm not sticking around for the rage of the week though, got a weekend of camping ahead of me

if you want I can post my facebook friends list before I go though, I'm sure you can find some other reasons to flip out

No, I think I've said what I needed to say to you.  Have a good weekend.

Maybe I can get Freeky to webcam my rage, and you can be amused later.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Ratatosk on June 04, 2010, 08:26:08 PM
Holy Shit! A Discordian that insults people and groups? You have got to be kidding me!!!!

Yeah, that's why I stopped leaning on new people when they come in doing that.  Two months ago, IIRC.

It's what everyone wants.  That's why those morons from MLA were so popular, right?
Molon Lube

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 04, 2010, 04:21:17 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on June 04, 2010, 04:15:11 PM
I just asked you to not be SUCH a dick, is all.

But that seems to be too hard for you. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Well, and then there was the accusations of her being a racist and Nazi as well.  Who wouldn't want to stick around for that?  

I would refer you to an earlier post of mine, but it's buried too far back for me to even try.

The stupid little cunt insulted me early on when I was being NICE to her, and got personal with cheap shots, so I did too. Like her all you want, but it's a bitchfight. If you try to grab my collar, expect to get bitten.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


the last yatto

this is not the hat you are looking for...

maybe she just reminds me of some girl that slept with Jess James
Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

AFK

Quote from: Ratatosk on June 04, 2010, 08:26:08 PM
Holy Shit! A Discordian that insults people and groups? You have got to be kidding me!!!!

Yeah.  This is part of the problem I've had with this thread.  And the accusations of racism and Nazism made it that much worse for me.  If it was simply jabbing at her occassionally like Enki or Yatto gets, but it's gone beyond that here and I don't feel it has been justified beyond.  "We don't like you!"  
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 04, 2010, 11:21:01 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on June 04, 2010, 10:26:16 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 03, 2010, 12:29:33 AM
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 02, 2010, 10:04:37 PM
IMO, I think that some elements of this site look forward to poking people with sticks and what's wrong with that if its what you like to do?

If Nigel likes fighting with PED, then she should and if PED likes poking at Nigel then she should... but they should at least have the decency to be honest about it ;-)

If Nigel doesn't like shouting into the wind that is this thread, perhaps she might stop posting in this thread. If PED doesn't like some people here thinking shes a nitwit, perhaps she might stop posting in this thread and go make semi sensible posts elsewhere on the board.

As for you Dok, we all know what you like to do... and there are UN treaties against that shit!!!

I guess this just gets tiring after awhile.  Especially when it is entirely avoidable.  She's only been posting in this thread.  It would seem to me, if she was really that annoying to certain individuals, they could easily just NOT click on this thread.
(So can a Furby)

And?

Hypocrisy and all that. Not only do you NOT LIKE the discussion in this thread enough that you keep reading it, but you're on a high horse trying to control what other people read and post instead of just doing as you say to do, and not clicking.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Howl

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 04, 2010, 08:36:32 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 04, 2010, 08:26:08 PM
Holy Shit! A Discordian that insults people and groups? You have got to be kidding me!!!!

Yeah.  This is part of the problem I've had with this thread.  And the accusations of racism and Nazism made it that much worse for me.  If it was simply jabbing at her occassionally like Enki or Yatto gets, but it's gone beyond that here and I don't feel it has been justified beyond.  "We don't like you!"  

Dunno.  In a court of law, I'd agree.   Here?  The avatars comment was enough for me. 

But all I really need to know is that she came in spouting contempt, and continued doing that for two solid years...Then when she got all weepy about the responses, I am apparently a hypocrite and a shitneck for not suddenly bursting out bawling with remorse for the awful, horrible way I treated her.
Molon Lube

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Pēleus on June 04, 2010, 08:16:29 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 04, 2010, 11:25:52 AM
And for the record, no one has yet to produce any evidence of PED using

the image i recall seeing was an old uniform hat,  (not sure if its still there)
which i believe had the eagle crest removed but she was still rocking that hat...
but lady gaga has one just like it.

That's the one I remember as well. I believe there was also one with an armband; again, no insignia, but very evocative. Followed up by calling the only two black avatars here at the time "ugly" (which was also preceded by telling me that I was just jealous of how pretty she is) well... sorta leads to some thoughts.

Hard to believe she didn't know the implications of that armband and that hat, you know?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


AFK

Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on June 04, 2010, 08:36:50 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 04, 2010, 11:21:01 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on June 04, 2010, 10:26:16 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 03, 2010, 12:29:33 AM
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 02, 2010, 10:04:37 PM
IMO, I think that some elements of this site look forward to poking people with sticks and what's wrong with that if its what you like to do?

If Nigel likes fighting with PED, then she should and if PED likes poking at Nigel then she should... but they should at least have the decency to be honest about it ;-)

If Nigel doesn't like shouting into the wind that is this thread, perhaps she might stop posting in this thread. If PED doesn't like some people here thinking shes a nitwit, perhaps she might stop posting in this thread and go make semi sensible posts elsewhere on the board.

As for you Dok, we all know what you like to do... and there are UN treaties against that shit!!!

I guess this just gets tiring after awhile.  Especially when it is entirely avoidable.  She's only been posting in this thread.  It would seem to me, if she was really that annoying to certain individuals, they could easily just NOT click on this thread.
(So can a Furby)

And?

Hypocrisy and all that. Not only do you NOT LIKE the discussion in this thread enough that you keep reading it, but you're on a high horse trying to control what other people read and post instead of just doing as you say to do, and not clicking.

What control do I have?  As a 5-year member of this community I am voicing my opinion on the treatment of a 2-year member of this community.  AND now I am interested in this idea that there is a "norm" that some people belong to and others do not.  And now that I've been labled as someone outside of this "norm", I feel like I am certainly part of the discussion now.  

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 04, 2010, 08:39:43 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 04, 2010, 08:36:32 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 04, 2010, 08:26:08 PM
Holy Shit! A Discordian that insults people and groups? You have got to be kidding me!!!!

Yeah.  This is part of the problem I've had with this thread.  And the accusations of racism and Nazism made it that much worse for me.  If it was simply jabbing at her occassionally like Enki or Yatto gets, but it's gone beyond that here and I don't feel it has been justified beyond.  "We don't like you!"  

Dunno.  In a court of law, I'd agree.   Here?  The avatars comment was enough for me. 

But all I really need to know is that she came in spouting contempt, and continued doing that for two solid years...Then when she got all weepy about the responses, I am apparently a hypocrite and a shitneck for not suddenly bursting out bawling with remorse for the awful, horrible way I treated her.

She's basically a female Daruko, only without the redeeming qualities. IMO.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


hooplala

So does that make Cloris Leachman a nazi?
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

LMNO

To stick up for RWHN, I think his original point was: "You guys are really bringing me down with all the hate and stuff."

Not just in this thead, but that's where he posted it.  I could see that he was feeling down, tired, new-father-exhausted.  He came here to brighten his day, and only saw negativity.

Now, I realize that there are threads that aren't negative... Yesterday, we had three separate pun threads going on.  But you know what it's like when you're feeling down.  You tend to notice the negative stuff.

Now, people have been making swipes at him, and I suppose he could simply walk away and "not click" the entire forum.  But I like his presence here, and hope he doesn't.


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 04, 2010, 07:34:34 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 04, 2010, 07:05:10 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 04, 2010, 06:58:39 PM
So have we become the Discordian equivalent of MTV? 

Hey, that was pretty cold.

Well, then please, I would like others to answer my original question.  Isn't it a little disconcerting to think that there is this supposed norm on a the site www.principiadiscordia.com ?  It seems quite antithetical to me.  But what has been suggested in this thread so far is that PED is outside the norm because of the way she posts.  And now it has been revealed that I am outside of this norm as well.  

So what the fuck does that mean?  

Why don't you take it up with the ONE FUCKING PERSON who said it? Eh?

Or is that not a large enough audience to be put-upon with, from your pulpit?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 04, 2010, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 04, 2010, 07:48:51 PM
You have to admit, there are certain behaviors that would not get on well here.

A libertarian pagan social conservative would be extremely uncomfortable.

But the core principle remains true.  Anyone is able to post anything they want (with exceptions).  Anyone here is able to reply to that post in the manner they feel is appropriate (with exceptions).

Whatever "norm" that might exist is, for the most part, whatever the majority of responses happen to be.

This is not a perfect system, and has led to massive flame wars and multiple flounces, on all sides.



LMNO, it has become a completely dysfunctional system.  I mean, it was always dysfuctional, but it used to have advantages.

Discordianism - if there really is such a thing - is hard work, and this century should be our heyday.  But instead it's become a score-driven asshat fest in which five basic factions exist:

1.  You are beneath me.  I am too cool/smart/whatever for you.  Your attempts at humor are silly, and you should really post at my blog instead...or, alternatively, post here, and I will explain why you should sack up and try to be as G as I am.

2.  LOOK AT MY TITS!  HOLY SHIT!  YOU'RE ALL ASSHOLES, BUT CHECK OUT THESE HEADLIGHTS!  I AN KNOWN AND NOTED FOR THESE GODDAMN MAMMARIES.  WHITE KNIGHTS PLEASE TO APPLY AT STAGE DOOR! 

3.  These new people are great.  When they called us all names, and told us we were doin' it wrong, they probably didn't MEAN it.  Everyone I've known here for years, though, is an unredeemable shitneck.

4.  I like your post, but I'd like to argue the semantics of every word in it.  Whoops!  Did I derail it?  My bad.  Define "derail".

5.  Everyone else, getting ground into hamburger, and eventually finding other things to do.

Is this what we really wanted?  It must have been, or we wouldn't have done it.

:mittens:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."