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Started by Apikoros II, August 26, 2010, 05:53:49 PM

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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Exit City Hustle on August 27, 2010, 02:41:52 PM
If cheezer is an alt, he's using a proxy. All of his posts are from the same IP and no other accounts have posted from that IP.

ETA: IP resolves to America, making it unlikely (though not impossible) to be a proxy.

I think he might just be a douche.

It's a she.  And, by our standards, a kid.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Apikoros II on August 26, 2010, 09:41:34 PM
Wow--- This has gotten very heavy, I was hoping for witty comments about phrenology and the Maya. I will ask though if people think Mithc McConnell is part reptile ala David Ickes and John McCain mostly Lizard?

Shut up.  This isn't your thread anymore.
Molon Lube

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Charley Brown on August 27, 2010, 05:32:23 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on August 27, 2010, 05:24:54 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 27, 2010, 05:18:07 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on August 27, 2010, 02:53:17 AM
To anyone who seriously believes in ghosts- Here's a video of famed mentalist derren brown investigating what a "Ghost hunter" does.

You'll soon see, the ghost hunter is just a huuuuuuge victim of lawl of 5's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPDvEXS-71g&feature=fvst

Also, ESP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtlhjsiBEDw

Watch and be enlightened, or choose to believe in bullshit.
No skin off my back.

Anyone want a psychic reading? I only charge $200 for a genuine one.

I have seen and been touched by ghosts. I do not choose to believe, belief iin something is a thing that has not been seen or experienced. Please feel free to flame away.

Sure Charlie, I believe *you* have seen and been touched by ghosts, it doesn't mean though that there is any outside evidence that ghosts are real.

Personally, I used to read lots of books on ghosts stories and ghost hunting when I was a child.
I could of sworn I heard voices that weren't coming from anywhere, seeing things in the dark that were moving, and I did EVP tests which I found "ghostly" voices talking.

I grew up though and realised it was probably just my imagination because I was believed in ghosts, so I wanted to find evidence of them.
Ever since I came to that conclusion, I've never seen or heard a ghost again.
Hell, I even went on a "haunted" tour of melbourne once, being completely skeptical.
I found it funny other people were seeing the ghosts and jumping at every little sound while I remained calm and could only see evidence of natural activity.

Therefore, ghosts exist if you believe in them, and ghosts don't exist if you don't believe in them.

What? So two people, two cats and one dog with their eyes followed this person that wasn't there through the room. And it only exists because I choose to believe it?

Thats one of those situations where I try to think in ePrime. I've been in situations before where others AND myself see something that is not easily/possibly explained. Was it a ghost? Was it some kind of shared hallucination? I dunno. So I just consider it an experience and try not to give it an official label. Its particularly useful here cause if you use labels that have baggage people tend to focus on the baggage.


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After all these years I begin to realize that the 'open mindedness' of PD is a fucking myth.

:lulz:

Welcome to the club.
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Ratatosk on August 27, 2010, 04:02:39 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 27, 2010, 05:32:23 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on August 27, 2010, 05:24:54 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 27, 2010, 05:18:07 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on August 27, 2010, 02:53:17 AM
To anyone who seriously believes in ghosts- Here's a video of famed mentalist derren brown investigating what a "Ghost hunter" does.

You'll soon see, the ghost hunter is just a huuuuuuge victim of lawl of 5's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPDvEXS-71g&feature=fvst

Also, ESP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtlhjsiBEDw

Watch and be enlightened, or choose to believe in bullshit.
No skin off my back.

Anyone want a psychic reading? I only charge $200 for a genuine one.

I have seen and been touched by ghosts. I do not choose to believe, belief iin something is a thing that has not been seen or experienced. Please feel free to flame away.

Sure Charlie, I believe *you* have seen and been touched by ghosts, it doesn't mean though that there is any outside evidence that ghosts are real.

Personally, I used to read lots of books on ghosts stories and ghost hunting when I was a child.
I could of sworn I heard voices that weren't coming from anywhere, seeing things in the dark that were moving, and I did EVP tests which I found "ghostly" voices talking.

I grew up though and realised it was probably just my imagination because I was believed in ghosts, so I wanted to find evidence of them.
Ever since I came to that conclusion, I've never seen or heard a ghost again.
Hell, I even went on a "haunted" tour of melbourne once, being completely skeptical.
I found it funny other people were seeing the ghosts and jumping at every little sound while I remained calm and could only see evidence of natural activity.

Therefore, ghosts exist if you believe in them, and ghosts don't exist if you don't believe in them.

What? So two people, two cats and one dog with their eyes followed this person that wasn't there through the room. And it only exists because I choose to believe it?

Thats one of those situations where I try to think in ePrime. I've been in situations before where others AND myself see something that is not easily/possibly explained. Was it a ghost? Was it some kind of shared hallucination? I dunno. So I just consider it an experience and try not to give it an official label. Its particularly useful here cause if you use labels that have baggage people tend to focus on the baggage.


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After all these years I begin to realize that the 'open mindedness' of PD is a fucking myth.

:lulz:

Welcome to the club.

But if it fits the basic description of a ghost, why not call it a ghost for simplicity anyway? It's a good term for what Charley saw. He doesn't have to go into an explanation of how ghosts work for the basic term to work.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Doktor Blight on August 27, 2010, 04:10:14 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on August 27, 2010, 04:02:39 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 27, 2010, 05:32:23 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on August 27, 2010, 05:24:54 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 27, 2010, 05:18:07 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on August 27, 2010, 02:53:17 AM
To anyone who seriously believes in ghosts- Here's a video of famed mentalist derren brown investigating what a "Ghost hunter" does.

You'll soon see, the ghost hunter is just a huuuuuuge victim of lawl of 5's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPDvEXS-71g&feature=fvst

Also, ESP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtlhjsiBEDw

Watch and be enlightened, or choose to believe in bullshit.
No skin off my back.

Anyone want a psychic reading? I only charge $200 for a genuine one.

I have seen and been touched by ghosts. I do not choose to believe, belief iin something is a thing that has not been seen or experienced. Please feel free to flame away.

Sure Charlie, I believe *you* have seen and been touched by ghosts, it doesn't mean though that there is any outside evidence that ghosts are real.

Personally, I used to read lots of books on ghosts stories and ghost hunting when I was a child.
I could of sworn I heard voices that weren't coming from anywhere, seeing things in the dark that were moving, and I did EVP tests which I found "ghostly" voices talking.

I grew up though and realised it was probably just my imagination because I was believed in ghosts, so I wanted to find evidence of them.
Ever since I came to that conclusion, I've never seen or heard a ghost again.
Hell, I even went on a "haunted" tour of melbourne once, being completely skeptical.
I found it funny other people were seeing the ghosts and jumping at every little sound while I remained calm and could only see evidence of natural activity.

Therefore, ghosts exist if you believe in them, and ghosts don't exist if you don't believe in them.

What? So two people, two cats and one dog with their eyes followed this person that wasn't there through the room. And it only exists because I choose to believe it?

Thats one of those situations where I try to think in ePrime. I've been in situations before where others AND myself see something that is not easily/possibly explained. Was it a ghost? Was it some kind of shared hallucination? I dunno. So I just consider it an experience and try not to give it an official label. Its particularly useful here cause if you use labels that have baggage people tend to focus on the baggage.


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After all these years I begin to realize that the 'open mindedness' of PD is a fucking myth.

:lulz:

Welcome to the club.

But if it fits the basic description of a ghost, why not call it a ghost for simplicity anyway? It's a good term for what Charley saw. He doesn't have to go into an explanation of how ghosts work for the basic term to work.

Well, if it was he and I talking, I would be cool with that. But at PD.com, using labels that have baggage lead to people pointing and laughing. Having been on the receiving end of that many times, I was just offering my perspective. (See my threads on magic, sigils, egrigores etc which always devolve into people screaming about the words rather than discussing the ideas)...

Its just how this tribe rolls....
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

Doktor Howl

I was screaming about the ideas, personally.
Molon Lube

Adios


Doktor Howl

Quote from: Charley Brown on August 27, 2010, 04:34:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 04:30:07 PM
I was screaming about the ideas, personally.

What ideas?

Quotemagic, sigils, egrigores etc

On the subject of ghosts, I personally don't believe they exist, but that's just belief.  There is no evidence to support their existence that has satisfied me. 
Molon Lube

Adios

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 04:37:15 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 27, 2010, 04:34:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 04:30:07 PM
I was screaming about the ideas, personally.

What ideas?

Quotemagic, sigils, egrigores etc

On the subject of ghosts, I personally don't believe they exist, but that's just belief.  There is no evidence to support their existence that has satisfied me. 

I can understand that. I always say the only people who don't believe in ghosts are the ones who have never seen one.  :lulz:

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Charley Brown on August 27, 2010, 04:40:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 04:37:15 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 27, 2010, 04:34:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 04:30:07 PM
I was screaming about the ideas, personally.

What ideas?

Quotemagic, sigils, egrigores etc

On the subject of ghosts, I personally don't believe they exist, but that's just belief.  There is no evidence to support their existence that has satisfied me. 

I can understand that. I always say the only people who don't believe in ghosts are the ones who have never seen one.  :lulz:

Well, there's a few problems with them.  For example, if you can't see them, they're blind.  If they walk through walls, then they can't interact with us in any fashion.  Poor sort of ghost, if you ask me.
Molon Lube

Adios

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 04:41:48 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 27, 2010, 04:40:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 04:37:15 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 27, 2010, 04:34:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 04:30:07 PM
I was screaming about the ideas, personally.

What ideas?

Quotemagic, sigils, egrigores etc

On the subject of ghosts, I personally don't believe they exist, but that's just belief.  There is no evidence to support their existence that has satisfied me. 

I can understand that. I always say the only people who don't believe in ghosts are the ones who have never seen one.  :lulz:

Well, there's a few problems with them.  For example, if you can't see them, they're blind.  If they walk through walls, then they can't interact with us in any fashion.  Poor sort of ghost, if you ask me.

I prefer that kind over the ones who throw shit at you. Yes, had that happen several times as well.

Adios

Where did that kid troll go?

I have bottled up hate issues.

Faust

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 04:37:15 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 27, 2010, 04:34:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 04:30:07 PM
I was screaming about the ideas, personally.

What ideas?

Quotemagic, sigils, egrigores etc

On the subject of ghosts, I personally don't believe they exist, but that's just belief.  There is no evidence to support their existence that has satisfied me. 
You've never experienced any form of odd (shared) audio irregularity?
My personal unexplained one which my family label as ghosts was a sound, it was the sound of someone walking down the stairs.
It would happen a few times every day, the sound of a thump that was most definitely coming from each stairs you could even hear which direction it was going up or down and count the number of steps to match the noise.
Its not a ghost story, its just something bizarre I could never explain.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Faust on August 27, 2010, 04:53:35 PM
You've never experienced any form of odd (shared) audio irregularity?

Of course I have.  I think most people have.

Doesn't mean there's ghosts.  It meant you heard something that you couldn't positively identify.  Maybe ghosts, maybe something more prosaic.
Molon Lube

Don Coyote

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 05:00:18 PM
Quote from: Faust on August 27, 2010, 04:53:35 PM
You've never experienced any form of odd (shared) audio irregularity?

Of course I have.  I think most people have.

Doesn't mean there's ghosts.  It meant you heard something that you couldn't positively identify.  Maybe ghosts, maybe something more prosaic.

Like irregular expansion/contraction of shit...