Anarchy

[LMNO]

For the record, LA is a cool town.  You're thinking of Hollywood and Burbank.

[Jenne]

Badbeast--I see where you're going, and I've deplored the greediness with which government seems to want to capture its citizens and place then in jail with nary a thought to their so-called productivity to society as a free citizen.  In fact, many prison/jail administrators and law enforcement personnel suscribe to the notion that such people are "throw-aways" who belong out of society's way before they harm anyone any further.

And society at large EATS THAT UP WITH A MOTHERFUCKING SPOON.  And legislator or politician who runs on SAFETY--PUBLIC AND PRIVATE--KILLALLTHEMURDERINGRAPINGCARJACKINGTHUGS gets that much more votes for doing so.  People LOVE to "feel safe" and sacrifice on that altar too many of their own personal rights.

So the justification that it's not the people who built the state to act this way doesn't wash, in my mind.  I know there's a definite abuse of power when it comes to incarceration, criminalization, etc. (know it firsthand since my father's in prison), but this is what the people demand.  Yes, they're told to demand it, but even still, no one likes to feel unsafe.

Guess what they'd want to do if that so-called safety was removed?

[BabylonHoruv]

Badbeast--I see where you're going, and I've deplored the greediness with which government seems to want to capture its citizens and place then in jail with nary a thought to their so-called productivity to society as a free citizen.  In fact, many prison/jail administrators and law enforcement personnel suscribe to the notion that such people are "throw-aways" who belong out of society's way before they harm anyone any further.

And society at large EATS THAT UP WITH A MOTHERFUCKING SPOON.  And legislator or politician who runs on SAFETY--PUBLIC AND PRIVATE--KILLALLTHEMURDERINGRAPINGCARJACKINGTHUGS gets that much more votes for doing so.  People LOVE to "feel safe" and sacrifice on that altar too many of their own personal rights.

So the justification that it's not the people who built the state to act this way doesn't wash, in my mind.  I know there's a definite abuse of power when it comes to incarceration, criminalization, etc. (know it firsthand since my father's in prison), but this is what the people demand.  Yes, they're told to demand it, but even still, no one likes to feel unsafe.

Guess what they'd want to do if that so-called safety was removed?

Rob, rape and murder?

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

In my mind, there is no doubt
that most humans want to feel,
protected safe, secure and sound
with someone else behind the wheel.

Though some governments in history
have done their level best,
most it seems to me
have done, well, rather less.

So every couple hundred years,
the people stand and say,
"Out with bums and bastards,
let Freedom have its day!"

Then the first thing that they do,
after breaking off the yoke.
Is to pass control to another man
like some twisted sort of joke.

That man will speak of Hope and Change
or Freedom, Rights and Choice,
He says he's not like all the rest
and he'll "listen to your voice".

So the men once roused, fall back asleep
and dream that they are Free.
As though one man could suddenly
calm the entire sea.

But soon it all comes back again,
they're chained, and locked and yoked,
and a century or two will pass
before the flames get stoked.

So they gather up their forces,
and repeat their fathers fight,
and once the blood has soaked the field
they hand power to some Knight.

And he, of course,  will behave
just like the ones before
and all the people find themselves
prostrate on the floor.

In my mind, there is no doubt
that most humans want to feel,
protected safe, secure and sound
with someone else behind the wheel.

- Ratatosk

[Doktor Howl]

Yeah, you're right.  We should all just run back to the jungle and each live in our own trees.

What the hell was I thinking?

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Yeah, you're right.  We should all just run back to the jungle and each live in our own trees.

What the hell was I thinking?

[Don Coyote]

Yeah, you're right.  We should all just run back to the jungle and each live in our own trees.

What the hell was I thinking?

Solution

Burn down all the trees?

[Doktor Howl]

Yeah, you're right.  We should all just run back to the jungle and each live in our own trees.

What the hell was I thinking?

Solution

Burn down all the trees?

Solution:  Let the Free Market™ solve the tree problem.

[Don Coyote]

Yeah, you're right.  We should all just run back to the jungle and each live in our own trees.

What the hell was I thinking?

Solution

Burn down all the trees?

Solution:  Let the Free Market™ solve the tree problem.

Solution: Trade trees for the rights to walking on the ground. Then burn the trees.

[Doktor Howl]

Yeah, you're right.  We should all just run back to the jungle and each live in our own trees.

What the hell was I thinking?

Solution

Burn down all the trees?

Solution:  Let the Free Market™ solve the tree problem.

Solution: Trade trees for the rights to walking on the ground. Then burn the trees.

Funny thing:  Some jackass libertariantard actually invented a "pay park bench".  When the time runs out, dull spikes extrude from the seat until you put more quarters in.

Libertarians:  They're like robber barons, only retarded.  And without the money.

[The Great Pope of OUTSIDE]

  That's my bench dammit! Go find your own!

[Jasper]

That idea for the spike bench was really dumb.  Why not just have a normal bench, and give people the option to pay for a cushion to inflate?  That seems more humane and equitable.

You know, if it's really that big a deal to charge for a bench in the first place.

[The Great Pope of OUTSIDE]

No kidding. It's just a place to sit. 

[LMNO]

If I recall, it was invented by a German artist who made it as a satirical critique.  The Chinese then adopted it for reals.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

If I recall, it was invented by a German artist who made it as a satirical critique.  The Chinese then adopted it for reals.