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Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness

Started by Richter, October 21, 2009, 03:19:10 PM

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Richter

OK, sit by the fire with Richter for a bit.
Nice, isn't it?  Warm, dry, and pretty to look at when you decide you're sick of meeting my dead stare. 
Anyways, I wanted to have a quick word with you about your use of English language.  You're getting quite good at it, you can articulate ideas, and I can mostly understand what you're on about.  There's one thing that still bugging me though, your over – use of the possessive.
Sure, for your personal belongings, in cases where you need to denote that they are yours, it's fine.  You keep adding it into places where it's unnecessary though, chiming in that you OWN something, or that it's YOURS.  Why are you doing this?  Not to make derogatory assumptions, but I can't help but think it is symptom of some deeper insecurity.

Not sure of your grip on things?  (Maybe you should hold tighter.)

I'm not about to get all hippy – ish and point out that we can't really own anything.  (To be honest though, things in life are like beers, we can only ever really rent them.)

What about YOUR work?
YOUR time?
YOUR relationship with YOUR God at YOUR church?

It all starts to sound a bit silly to me.

Know what's really YOURS?  Only YOURS and no one else's, beyond any perversity of dominance or doubt?  The ideas in your head distilled from other people's ideas, or developed yourself, and your will to enact them.  What else is worth having?  What else can you be sure of having without them?

May you be rich.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 22, 2015, 03:00:53 AM
Anyone ever think about how Richter inhabits the same reality as you and just scream and scream and scream, but in a good way?   :lulz:

Friendly Neighborhood Mentat

LMNO

I'm impressed by the impact of the proactive way you take ownership of the thinkspace.

Richter

I'm impressed at the use you make of ironic counterpoint.

Have I told you how much I hate you?  :lulz:
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 22, 2015, 03:00:53 AM
Anyone ever think about how Richter inhabits the same reality as you and just scream and scream and scream, but in a good way?   :lulz:

Friendly Neighborhood Mentat

LMNO


Cramulus

:mittens:, richter

Hegel says that humans just want to see themselves reflected in their environment.

I mean, a beautiful painting is better if it's hanging on your wall, right? Then this beauty is part of your self.


it's an addictive trend.


related: http://pastebin.com/f51b06381

Richter

Quote from: Cramulus on October 21, 2009, 03:42:51 PM
:mittens:, richter

Hegel says that humans just want to see themselves reflected in their environment.

I mean, a beautiful painting is better if it's hanging on your wall, right? Then this beauty is part of your self.


it's an addictive trend.


related: http://pastebin.com/f51b06381

That's a good point in the overal line of thinking to highlight.  Eschewing ALL posession kind of spirals into anhedonia or self induced poverty.  this can be OK, if you're like a monk and can use it as a tool for personal development, but really sucks in most other situations.

Near as I can figure possession starts being useful where the absence of it would be a hinderance to further development.  (Without shelter, utilities, clothes, etc, I start putting a LOT more time into compensating for their absence than I do into developing myself and helping develop things and people I like.

Posessions STOP being useful at the point where having them becomes purely gratification.  (In the spirit that SLACK is more a matter of self actualiztion and VERY differnt from Hedonism / Gluttony.)  Aptly demonstrated in your link, from "Siddhartha" I'm guessing?

I'm kind of tending towards the idea of "Do nothing which ONLY gratifies yourself." 

Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 22, 2015, 03:00:53 AM
Anyone ever think about how Richter inhabits the same reality as you and just scream and scream and scream, but in a good way?   :lulz:

Friendly Neighborhood Mentat

The Good Reverend Roger

Everything, everywhere, belongs to me.

My interbutts.

My City.

My goddamn road (Bluehairs, take heed!).

My mountains (hikers, feel free to get lost and eaten by bears.  Never liked ya anyway).

My office.

My deathray.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Richter

You only get to take it with you if you let us use the city and the mountain for your viking funeral barge.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 22, 2015, 03:00:53 AM
Anyone ever think about how Richter inhabits the same reality as you and just scream and scream and scream, but in a good way?   :lulz:

Friendly Neighborhood Mentat

Golden Applesauce

Q: How regularly do you hire 8th graders?
A: We have hired a number of FORMER 8th graders.

Cramulus

Quote from: GA on October 23, 2009, 03:09:33 AM
Remember: public property is your property.

:potd:

hahah somebody toss that in the meme bomb hopper

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Cramulus on October 23, 2009, 03:12:37 AM
Quote from: GA on October 23, 2009, 03:09:33 AM
Remember: public property is your property.

:potd:

hahah somebody toss that in the meme bomb hopper

Ho ho!  We're all going to jail!
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Richter

They'll likely offer us employment before we see any time though.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 22, 2015, 03:00:53 AM
Anyone ever think about how Richter inhabits the same reality as you and just scream and scream and scream, but in a good way?   :lulz:

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Doktor Howl

Molon Lube


Dimocritus

Episkopos of GABCab ~ "caecus plumbum caecus"