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Dads get no fuckin credit

Started by AFK, October 02, 2010, 01:38:25 PM

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Phox

Quote from: BLARFINGARF on October 02, 2010, 06:10:18 PM
Quote from: Grade 7 Pannus on October 02, 2010, 05:53:51 PM
Tell her she's right and that you need the in-law to clean the house. Proceed to kick back and relax.

THIS


seriously though, stay at home dads are awesome!  You should respectfully tell her you have it all under control, before cuntpunting her from your house.
:lulz:

This.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: BLARFINGARF on October 02, 2010, 06:10:18 PM
Quote from: Grade 7 Pannus on October 02, 2010, 05:53:51 PM
Tell her she's right and that you need the in-law to clean the house. Proceed to kick back and relax.

THIS


seriously though, stay at home dads are awesome!  You should respectfully tell her you have it all under control, before cuntpunting her from your house.

You could probably put it in a way that's like, "I think I'm ok for now, but I'll let you know the moment I need a hand with something."
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RWHN, as the house bitch of the Brown household, I applaud you. Sounds like the MIL is trying to butt in to make herself feel important. Throw her a bone now and again so she feels she is 'helping', for the long term relationship.
But, that said, good for you. Respect + 10

AFK

As diplomatically possible, I told her that it's my family and I'll take care of it.  Obviously, when the work week starts up again, she may need to come over to hang out with my wife so she isn't lonely, and she'll need to be here when the school bus drops my daughter off.  But when the work day is done, I'll have it sufficiently covered.  

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Freeky

Quote from: Pho on October 02, 2010, 05:44:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 02, 2010, 05:34:36 PM
Might be kinda like a what's on the news today sort of thing to tie the whole shrapnel/deadbeat perceptions together.

What makes more of a lasting impression, an alcoholic father who sits there, watches football and yells at his kids all the time, or someone picking up the slack for his sick wife?

i.e.- How many houses didn't burn down today? Whoops, never really took notice because that information isn't interesting.

I agree with your conclusion, but I don't think your example is really an apt comparison. Houses burning or not burning is not quite the same as whether or not fathers help with housework.  I don't think the fatherly stereotypes have anything to do with "interest".

And we rarely ever hear about how many houses didn't burn, because it's the normal state of affairs. Similarly, we don't hear how many dads didn't pay child support this month in the mainstream media. Unless there is a good story to it, we don't hear about it. The media is a business. If it won't sell, it goes unreported.

ETA: damn, that was a poor word choice.

Prickish pedantry is pedantric.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I think you're overthinking. If you were bedridden and Mrs RWHN had to work full-time AND take care of the house and kids AND take care of you, her mom would almost certainly also recognize that she was trying to do the work of two people, and offer to help.

It's the whole "work of two people" thing she's responding to, IMO, not the fact that you have a dongle instead of a port.

Also, seriously. Single dads who actually take their responsibility and raise their kids are usually lauded as FUCKING HEROES.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Also, speaking as a single mom, :golfclap:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Payne

I was also about to note something similar- perhaps your mother in law is just concerned for the overall happiness of her grandkiddys (I know how grand parents are, often worse than parents) and her daughter, without any thought really of the broader implications of her offer of help.

Your response was exactly correct though. It said "I can and will do this" without any hint of "Ofuk, I am  man and know not how household is formed. BUT I MUST PREVAIL!"

AFK

Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 02, 2010, 06:41:40 PM
I think you're overthinking. If you were bedridden and Mrs RWHN had to work full-time AND take care of the house and kids AND take care of you, her mom would almost certainly also recognize that she was trying to do the work of two people, and offer to help.

It's the whole "work of two people" thing she's responding to, IMO, not the fact that you have a dongle instead of a port.

Also, seriously. Single dads who actually take their responsibility and raise their kids are usually lauded as FUCKING HEROES.

Well, when I was flat on my back a week ago with a bad cold she wasn't freaking out saying she "needed" to be here and that the kids should stay with her overnight so my wife could cope.  It was plainly obvious she didn't think I could hack taking care of my wife and my two kids by myself.  That's why she "needed" to be here.  Because apparently me taking care of my family is "taking on the world" but it doesn't rise to that same level when it's my wife. 

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

AFK

Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on October 02, 2010, 07:10:09 PM
I was also about to note something similar- perhaps your mother in law is just concerned for the overall happiness of her grandkiddys (I know how grand parents are, often worse than parents) and her daughter, without any thought really of the broader implications of her offer of help.

Your response was exactly correct though. It said "I can and will do this" without any hint of "Ofuk, I am  man and know not how household is formed. BUT I MUST PREVAIL!"

I would agree if she ceased to offer said help after my first declaration to her that I was perfectly capable of taking care of my family.  But the offers kept coming.  Actually it was less "offering" and more insisting. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 02, 2010, 07:49:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on October 02, 2010, 07:10:09 PM
I was also about to note something similar- perhaps your mother in law is just concerned for the overall happiness of her grandkiddys (I know how grand parents are, often worse than parents) and her daughter, without any thought really of the broader implications of her offer of help.

Your response was exactly correct though. It said "I can and will do this" without any hint of "Ofuk, I am  man and know not how household is formed. BUT I MUST PREVAIL!"

I would agree if she ceased to offer said help after my first declaration to her that I was perfectly capable of taking care of my family.  But the offers kept coming.  Actually it was less "offering" and more insisting. 

So she's pushy.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 02, 2010, 07:47:29 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 02, 2010, 06:41:40 PM
I think you're overthinking. If you were bedridden and Mrs RWHN had to work full-time AND take care of the house and kids AND take care of you, her mom would almost certainly also recognize that she was trying to do the work of two people, and offer to help.

It's the whole "work of two people" thing she's responding to, IMO, not the fact that you have a dongle instead of a port.

Also, seriously. Single dads who actually take their responsibility and raise their kids are usually lauded as FUCKING HEROES.

Well, when I was flat on my back a week ago with a bad cold she wasn't freaking out saying she "needed" to be here and that the kids should stay with her overnight so my wife could cope.  It was plainly obvious she didn't think I could hack taking care of my wife and my two kids by myself.  That's why she "needed" to be here.  Because apparently me taking care of my family is "taking on the world" but it doesn't rise to that same level when it's my wife. 



Well, in that case, clearly America doesn't appreciate fathers.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


AFK

Nevermind that my commentary on the status and popular perceptions of Dads in America was supported by more than this personal situation. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 02, 2010, 09:08:58 PM
Nevermind that my commentary on the status and popular perceptions of Dads in America was supported by more than this personal situation.  

It struck me as mostly being wankery, actually. "Look at me, I'm actually capable of doing my job! Why isn't everyone patting me on the back for not being an incompetent deadbeat?"
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

My thought on it all is that, instead of being resentful that society has a low expectation of fathers, perhaps it would be more effective to direct your ire at the millions of fathers who have for millennia refused to wipe a snotty nose or change a diaper, thus leading to those reduced expectations.

In the meantime, what you can do to change it is keep up the perfectly adequate work, and encourage other dads to do so as well.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."