CITIZEN BEATEN FOR FILMING SPEAKING EVENT

[Telarus]

Naw, the ACLU are too busy with this shit:

Caught Spying on Student, FBI Demands GPS Tracker Back

[Doktor Howl]

If so, I think you have to register as a member of the press. I could be wrong about that, but I'm not sure if it's constitutionally protected.

No, you simply need an outlet for your work.  And yes, it's constitutionally protected.

[Adios]

At the very least assault charges should be brought.



What were they afraid he would hear that made them so insistent on no recording?

Was no recording a part of the terms of attending? (Still doesn't excuse the assault)

[Cramulus]

I don't understand the point of speaking in public if you don't want your message to be disseminated


So from what I'm reading, these guys didn't want this particular dude to film their event because he's associated with press they don't like

so why the fuck did they punch him? that's about the most irresponsible thing you can do to protect your message. Dumb on their part. We never would have heard of this garbage if they hadn't done that.

[Doktor Howl]

I don't understand the point of speaking in public if you don't want your message to be disseminated


So from what I'm reading, these guys didn't want this particular dude to film their event because he's associated with press they don't like

so why the fuck did they punch him? that's about the most irresponsible thing you can do to protect your message. Dumb on their part. We never would have heard of this garbage if they hadn't done that.

The real message got broadcast, Cram.

"We'll kick your ass."

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Aside from the part that quotes him a describing himself as one, is there any corroborative evidence that he is a professional journalist?

You don't have to be a "professional" journalist. All you have to be doing is filming/working on behalf of some kind of journalistic organization. For an event like that he should really have been wearing a press badge, HOWEVER, the fact that he wasn't didn't give their security the right to rough him up.

[Doktor Howl]

Aside from the part that quotes him a describing himself as one, is there any corroborative evidence that he is a professional journalist?

You don't have to be a "professional" journalist. All you have to be doing is filming/working on behalf of some kind of journalistic organization. For an event like that he should really have been wearing a press badge, HOWEVER, the fact that he wasn't didn't give their security the right to rough him up.

Journalism can be as simple as running a news blog.  There are no actual conditions.  Yes, he should have worn a press badge, but you're 169% correct:  There is no excuse for beating a man for filming a public speech.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Naw, the ACLU are too busy with this shit:

Caught Spying on Student, FBI Demands GPS Tracker Back

That's some pretty sick shit. End times, man. End times.

So much of our budget is being diverted for spying on US citizens and the "war on drugs". Meanwhile, the economy is in the toilet and people are losing their homes while we bailout the financial institutions that knowingly and wilfully put us in this situation. Meanwhile, we have torture centers for "interrogating" prisoners of illegal wars.

It seems like all of humanity's energy and power to benefit itself is being diverted to hurting itself.

[Eater of Clowns]

Naw, the ACLU are too busy with this shit:

Caught Spying on Student, FBI Demands GPS Tracker Back

That's some pretty sick shit. End times, man. End times.

So much of our budget is being diverted for spying on US citizens and the "war on drugs". Meanwhile, the economy is in the toilet and people are losing their homes while we bailout the financial institutions that knowingly and wilfully put us in this situation. Meanwhile, we have torture centers for "interrogating" prisoners of illegal wars.

It seems like all of humanity's energy and power to benefit itself is being diverted to hurting itself.

Holy fuck we have economic HIV.

[Doktor Howl]

Naw, the ACLU are too busy with this shit:

Caught Spying on Student, FBI Demands GPS Tracker Back

That's some pretty sick shit. End times, man. End times.

So much of our budget is being diverted for spying on US citizens and the "war on drugs". Meanwhile, the economy is in the toilet and people are losing their homes while we bailout the financial institutions that knowingly and wilfully put us in this situation. Meanwhile, we have torture centers for "interrogating" prisoners of illegal wars.

It seems like all of humanity's energy and power to benefit itself is being diverted to hurting itself.

It's a good thing the FBI isn't racially or religiously profiling anyone.

Especially given that the last serious terrorist attempt was done by the Huttaree Militia, 8 WASP inbreds from Michigan.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Naw, the ACLU are too busy with this shit:

Caught Spying on Student, FBI Demands GPS Tracker Back

That's some pretty sick shit. End times, man. End times.

So much of our budget is being diverted for spying on US citizens and the "war on drugs". Meanwhile, the economy is in the toilet and people are losing their homes while we bailout the financial institutions that knowingly and wilfully put us in this situation. Meanwhile, we have torture centers for "interrogating" prisoners of illegal wars.

It seems like all of humanity's energy and power to benefit itself is being diverted to hurting itself.

Holy fuck we have economic HIV.

This.

[E.O.T.]

I don't understand the point of speaking in public if you don't want your message to be disseminated


So from what I'm reading, these guys didn't want this particular dude to film their event because he's associated with press they don't like

so why the fuck did they punch him? that's about the most irresponsible thing you can do to protect your message. Dumb on their part. We never would have heard of this garbage if they hadn't done that.

The real message got broadcast, Cram.

"We'll kick your ass."

HEH!

         re: CRAM, there was no knowledge at the moment who this guy was, the church hosting is just apparently a bit unprofessional in regards to events like this. i'm assuming the aggressors are their ushers; maybe this is how they shake down folks on sunday(?). granted, that guy repeating "my first amendment rights" again & again must have been super annoying, but really!! -the "no video" issue comes from the church making an agreement with a local news station(which may have been KOIN's overstepping) to have exclusive recording privilege. But this was not posted for anyone entering the event.

[BabylonHoruv]

Aside from the part that quotes him a describing himself as one, is there any corroborative evidence that he is a professional journalist?

I DON'T CATCH THAT

          anywhere during the tape(?) - but whether or not this person is a journalist becomes irrelevant. it's not that big of an event, actually quite small as you can see from the footage. people just sit on their hands during the episode(!) everyone in the room had to see the violence taking place. and kitzhaber doesn't even pause?

OVERALL

          i'm kinda blown away that all the online jabber covering this has not resulted in some print!

BUT, THEN AGAIN,

          the 'oregonian' recently ran an article dismissing "9/11 was an inside job" theories as a view held only by uninformed and radical muslims. because that's the news.

I meant in the part of the article you quoted.

The video also appears on another Breitbart site under the headline: "Dems Gone Wild: Citizen Assaulted for Filming John Kitzhaber Event." The byline on the piece – although it's not clear whether he was one of the cameramen – is that of James O'Keefe, a 25-year-old right-wing operative who describes himself as an "investigative journalist and filmmaker."

I agree that it doesn't matter in the sense that SOMEONE should have done something. But as a future attorney, I like to see if people's claims would hold up in a court of law. So... unless he is a professional journalist, I don't think his First Amendment claim will.

I'm pretty sure amateur journalists receive the same protections.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Aside from the part that quotes him a describing himself as one, is there any corroborative evidence that he is a professional journalist?

I DON'T CATCH THAT

          anywhere during the tape(?) - but whether or not this person is a journalist becomes irrelevant. it's not that big of an event, actually quite small as you can see from the footage. people just sit on their hands during the episode(!) everyone in the room had to see the violence taking place. and kitzhaber doesn't even pause?

OVERALL

          i'm kinda blown away that all the online jabber covering this has not resulted in some print!

BUT, THEN AGAIN,

          the 'oregonian' recently ran an article dismissing "9/11 was an inside job" theories as a view held only by uninformed and radical muslims. because that's the news.

I meant in the part of the article you quoted.

The video also appears on another Breitbart site under the headline: "Dems Gone Wild: Citizen Assaulted for Filming John Kitzhaber Event." The byline on the piece – although it's not clear whether he was one of the cameramen – is that of James O'Keefe, a 25-year-old right-wing operative who describes himself as an "investigative journalist and filmmaker."

I agree that it doesn't matter in the sense that SOMEONE should have done something. But as a future attorney, I like to see if people's claims would hold up in a court of law. So... unless he is a professional journalist, I don't think his First Amendment claim will.

I'm pretty sure amateur journalists receive the same protections.

Yep.

[Phox]

Aside from the part that quotes him a describing himself as one, is there any corroborative evidence that he is a professional journalist?

I DON'T CATCH THAT

          anywhere during the tape(?) - but whether or not this person is a journalist becomes irrelevant. it's not that big of an event, actually quite small as you can see from the footage. people just sit on their hands during the episode(!) everyone in the room had to see the violence taking place. and kitzhaber doesn't even pause?

OVERALL

          i'm kinda blown away that all the online jabber covering this has not resulted in some print!

BUT, THEN AGAIN,

          the 'oregonian' recently ran an article dismissing "9/11 was an inside job" theories as a view held only by uninformed and radical muslims. because that's the news.

I meant in the part of the article you quoted.

The video also appears on another Breitbart site under the headline: "Dems Gone Wild: Citizen Assaulted for Filming John Kitzhaber Event." The byline on the piece – although it's not clear whether he was one of the cameramen – is that of James O'Keefe, a 25-year-old right-wing operative who describes himself as an "investigative journalist and filmmaker."

I agree that it doesn't matter in the sense that SOMEONE should have done something. But as a future attorney, I like to see if people's claims would hold up in a court of law. So... unless he is a professional journalist, I don't think his First Amendment claim will.

I'm pretty sure amateur journalists receive the same protections.

Seems my use of the word "professional" was not what I was driving at. If he is actually doing journalism with the footage, then yes it's protected, regardless of whether or not he is a journalist by trade. From a legal point of view though, he needs more than his word to back his claim, which is why I asked if there was any thing else aside from his own statement. But it would appear that he does have ties to some news media, so he is well within his first amendment rights, yes.