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Do you believe in a soul?

Started by The Dark Monk, November 07, 2008, 01:51:39 AM

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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 08, 2010, 08:41:07 PM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:38:56 PM
I am not passing value judgments on the validity or relevancy of your views or the views of scientists at large.  I am also not a Buddhist to my awareness.  My girlfriend is on days she feels like it.

So, what was your reasoning for, when the conversation was about physics, you post something about buddhism?

TEH DANZIG WOO LEE MASTERZ.
Molon Lube

Psychonomaly

Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 08, 2010, 08:37:27 PM
:?

So Buddha is the one theistically ejaculating and his sperm is quanta?

If you wish.  Does quantum physics assert that matter is space and light?  

LMNO

Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:42:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 08, 2010, 08:37:27 PM
:?

So Buddha is the one theistically ejaculating and his sperm is quanta?
Quote

If you wish.  Does quantum physics assert that matter is space and light?  

No.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:42:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 08, 2010, 08:37:27 PM
:?

So Buddha is the one theistically ejaculating and his sperm is quanta?

If you wish.  Does quantum physics assert that matter is space and light?  


No.

Light = photons = pure energy. 

You get photons by whacking matter.  Saying that light is matter is like saying that the words you say are what you are made out of.

Space doesn't make up matter, either.  Space is where you PUT matter, and while it has structure, it has no mass.  Chew on that one a bit...Ashtekar loops would make GREAT mahgjickqual explanations, if the purpose is to use confusing subjects to prop up metaphysical garbage.

Molon Lube

Psychonomaly

Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 08, 2010, 08:41:07 PM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:38:56 PM
I am not passing value judgments on the validity or relevancy of your views or the views of scientists at large.  I am also not a Buddhist to my awareness.  My girlfriend is on days she feels like it.

So, what was your reasoning for, when the conversation was about physics, you post something about buddhism?

I didn't realize we were still discussing quantum physics.  You asked me what matter is composed of and I told you what I believe.  

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 08, 2010, 08:41:26 PM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:07:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 08, 2010, 08:00:46 PM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 07:58:43 PM


Light is a thoughtform.

So if I stop thinking, the sun will turn off?

Define "I".

Elder Iptuous

Cram,
that all makes sense to me, but it still seems like it takes a shoehorn to fit 'soul' into it...
what was that term that someone used recently for when something acts as a block to further thought on something?
i think 'soul' seems to fall into that category, except it is a merciful block that all parties in the conversation eventually wish to employ...  same as 'god'.
wrestling with what it really is seems to be a gordian knot.  you can't straighten it out without being incomplete or inconsistent.... (a godelian knot, i guess)  so you either slap a label on it and file it away without defining it rigidly ('i know it when i see it'), or you cut the knot with your sword by rigidly defining it in some way that's not quite satisfying.  which is where i'd put your definition of 'soul', or my definition of 'god'.

Phox

Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:38:56 PM



I am not passing value judgments on the validity or relevancy of your views or the views of scientists at large.  I am also not a Buddhist to my awareness.  My girlfriend is on days she feels like it.
Then why bring it up at all?

Doktor Howl

Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:46:43 PM

I didn't realize we were still discussing quantum physics.  You asked me what matter is composed of and I told you what I believe.  

I believe that matter is composed of God's poop.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go polish part of a turd.
Molon Lube

Psychonomaly

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 08, 2010, 08:46:23 PM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:42:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 08, 2010, 08:37:27 PM
:?

So Buddha is the one theistically ejaculating and his sperm is quanta?

If you wish.  Does quantum physics assert that matter is space and light?  


No.

Light = photons = pure energy. 

You get photons by whacking matter.  Saying that light is matter is like saying that the words you say are what you are made out of.

Yes, but I equate light to "consciousness".  Sometimes.  

QuoteSpace doesn't make up matter, either.  Space is where you PUT matter, and while it has structure, it has no mass.  Chew on that one a bit...Ashtekar loops would make GREAT mahgjickqual explanations, if the purpose is to use confusing subjects to prop up metaphysical garbage.

true.

LMNO

Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:46:43 PM
I didn't realize we were still discussing quantum physics.  You asked me what matter is composed of and I told you what I believe.  

Ah.  I see.


Well, the poetry corner is here.  You might be more comfortable dealing with trite metaphor and recursion there.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:50:37 PM
Yes, but I equate light to "consciousness".  Sometimes.  

I equate light to "lets me see".  All the time.
Molon Lube

Psychonomaly

Quote from: Phox on October 08, 2010, 08:47:47 PM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:38:56 PM



I am not passing value judgments on the validity or relevancy of your views or the views of scientists at large.  I am also not a Buddhist to my awareness.  My girlfriend is on days she feels like it.
Then why bring it up at all?

Because this thread is about belief.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 08, 2010, 08:48:28 PM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:46:43 PM
Define "I".

Me.  Doktor Howl.  The horrible cunt from Tucson.  

I don't think you can stop thinking.  But if You (singularly) were to stop thinking and Brahman were to continue thinking, then I don't think the sun would turn off.  I think.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:53:06 PM

I don't think you can stop thinking.

You haven't seen me with a head full of cactus, bad whiskey, and lorezapam.

If my thoughts controled the universe, it would be dark, smelly, and prone incoherent rage.
Molon Lube

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Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:53:06 PM
Quote from: Phox on October 08, 2010, 08:47:47 PM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:38:56 PM



I am not passing value judgments on the validity or relevancy of your views or the views of scientists at large.  I am also not a Buddhist to my awareness.  My girlfriend is on days she feels like it.
Then why bring it up at all?

Because this thread is about belief.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 08, 2010, 08:48:28 PM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:46:43 PM
Define "I".

Me.  Doktor Howl.  The horrible cunt from Tucson.  

I don't think you can stop thinking.  But if You (singularly) were to stop thinking and Brahman were to continue thinking, then I don't think the sun would turn off.  I think.

Isn't not thinking what you're supposed to do in meditation?

Also, you seem to think a lot of things sometimes, you think.
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