THE SOLUTION TO TSA BULLSHIT AND A SANER, LESS INFURIATING WAY TO FLY

[Lies]

I have one word for you all-
"Israelification"

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199---israelification-high-security-little-bother

You're welcome. NOW SPREAD THE WORD.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I have one word for you all-
"Israelification"

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199---israelification-high-security-little-bother

You're welcome. NOW SPREAD THE WORD.

We were just having this conversation on my board, and pretty much everyone who has traveled to Israel agreed that that, at least, is one thing they're doing right.

[Cramulus]

eye opening. good read. thanks for posting.

[hooplala]

Pierson is a real clusterfuck of an airport, I'm not surprised that douchebag's answer was the clear the terminal.

[Richter]

The final comment there was the best. 

[bds]

yeah, that was really interesting ~ doubt it'll ever be implemented over here, but it's a great example of security done right, i guess.

[Richter]

I agreed. In a  sick way the "Security" in airports right now is a product that the public is being sold on.  Wait hours and stand in line for screenings, and you're seeing that security in place, and being enforced.  The efficiency is almost secondary.  (Personally, I've chatted with people as vehemently defensive of the "strong" security measures, as folks who are opposed to it.)

Not to mention the use of screening for behavioral cues.  More difficult and expensive to train someone and employ for that than to watch a screen, or wave a wand.  (Ahh, the land of bored security gaurds.)

[tyrannosaurus vex]

A) Airport security is an industry, and the point is to make contractors rich. If people are made safer, well, that's a bonus.

B) Americans bitch about the inconveniences of airport security, but truth be told, if it was easy to get through an airport, many people would assume it was also unsafe, and would choose not to fly. The inconvenience is the government's way of saying "LOOK WE'RE DOING SOMETHING," even though they aren't really, and people trust that more than they would trust actual statistical results, because we've been programmed to reject facts and rely on (guided) instinct.

[Suu]

I agreed. In a  sick way the "Security" in airports right now is a product that the public is being sold on.  Wait hours and stand in line for screenings, and you're seeing that security in place, and being enforced.  The efficiency is almost secondary.  (Personally, I've chatted with people as vehemently defensive of the "strong" security measures, as folks who are opposed to it.)

Not to mention the use of screening for behavioral cues.  More difficult and expensive to train someone and employ for that than to watch a screen, or wave a wand.  (Ahh, the land of bored security gaurds.)

They're getting paid minimum wage and working in a government union...I mean, REALLY, do you blame them?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

$11.30 is the lowest starting wage for screeners. http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/2003/press_release_0324.shtm

Oh shi, I just noticed that was from 2003. I'm sure it's higher now, I'll try to find it.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

http://www.tsa.gov/join/careers/pay_scales.shtm Screeners start at D. Not great pay, but definitely not minimum wage.

[Cain]

Does this mean Israelis are now sand-nags who love Obama?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Does this mean Israelis are now sand-nags who love Obama?

I think that's what that means. I'm having a hard time telling.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Here are a few more good TSA links. It's getting hot in here, so take off all your clothes!

http://volokh.com/2010/11/15/do-new-high-tech-scans-at-the-airport-violate-the-fourth-amendment/
http://www.americablog.com/2010/01/german-tv-highlights-failings-of-body.html
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-11-12/travel/travel.screening_1_body-scanners-pat-downs-travel-companies?_s=PM:TRAVEL
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Amid-airport-anger_-GOP-takes-aim-at-screening-1576602-108259869.html

My prediction? This holiday season there will be multiple incidents of travelers stressed by the holidays, long lines, and poor treatment, losing their shit and flipping out in the screening area. One of these incidents will result in the unnecessary and unwarranted death of a traveler at the hands of the TSA. Mass outrage will ensue, airports will evict the TSA, and there will be massive layoffs. The department will be reduced to a skeleton, repurposed, and eventually renamed in an attempt to lose the shame.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

and eventually renamed in an attempt to lose the shame

I'm with you 200% of the way but I reckon that last sentence should read:

and eventually gets absorbed under the Dept. Of Homeland Security like they want.

Or it could be me being all tinfoilhat.

No, they don't want to be absorbed by anyone. As a separate department they have their own funding and their own budget.