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December 03, 2010, 12:07:20 AM Last Edit: December 03, 2010, 07:07:29 AM by Lysergic
Ok, so I was bashing Alex Jones last night on youtube, and I got this guy who sounded like an alright person privately messaging me telling me I was right for being so critical of Alex Jones and shit, which of course wins him a few points.

But then he starts telling me about the "zionazi's" and the JP morgan banking system and stuff and gives me a link to something called the "Kaiser report" which is apparently on some russian news network.

Apparently, this Kaiser guy thinks Alex Jones is a nutbag but advertises or something on infowars to get people onto his agenda, something to do with silver trading and stuff to take down the banks. (here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y-YmyTXdBs&feature=player_embedded)

I've watched a bit but I'm not sure if I'm wasting my time or if this guy is actually onto something and maybe I should be listening to him or if he's just another brand of crazy.

Thoughts?
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

hooplala

#1
December 03, 2010, 12:25:09 AM
That video is fucking bonkers.
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Lies

#2
December 03, 2010, 12:30:10 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 03, 2010, 12:25:09 AM
That video is fucking bonkers.

Yeah, thats what I was feeling as well, but I'm not sure if he's bonkers because he knows the truth or he's bonkers because he *thinks* he knows the truth.
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Lies

#3
December 03, 2010, 12:34:15 AM
Not to mention, from what little I do know, what this guy is saying is checking out, and seems to be more trustworthy than most American media.
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Telarus

#4
December 03, 2010, 12:39:02 AM
He probably knows a little bit of the truth. I'd buy that (some of)JP morgan is very dirty. I'd have to watch more of the vid, but the rest of it is def their own kind of crazy.
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#5
December 03, 2010, 06:23:56 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 03, 2010, 12:07:20 AM
Ok, so I was bashing Alex Jones last night on youtube, and I got this guy who sounded like an alright person privately messaging me telling me I was right for being so critical of Alex Jones and shit, which of course wins him a few points.

I knew there was a reason I liked you.  :lulz:
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If they could sell sanity in a bottle
They'd be charging for compressed air,
And marketing healthcare.

Richter

#6
December 03, 2010, 01:23:50 PM
OK, just thinking about the ramifications of a a group that could actually be called "zionazis", the likeelyhood, and the amount of hypothetical weirdness you have to assume to beleive it, I am fairly certain this guy is a nut. 
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Cain

#7
December 03, 2010, 01:46:08 PM
Anyone who uses the word "Zionazis" or any kind of similar term will, almost invariably, turn out to believe

a) the Holocaust was a lie
b) a generalized "Jewish conspiracy"
c) Hitler was an unfairly maligned figure OR was a tool of the "Jewish conspiracy"
d) that people like the Aryan Nations, KKK etc are not bad folk.

Trust me on this.  Actually, don't.  Go to Godlikeproductions and follow a few people around the board, and you can see it for yourself. 

This Keiser guy seems somewhat more legit.  He has a history as an options trader, so he understands the area he is talking about, and he has made several successful predictions of where the market is going.

However, he has also made several fantastical and incorrect predictions.  Also, this Guardian article accuses him of market manipulation http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2004/nov/26/9

Disco Pickle

#8
December 03, 2010, 05:41:23 PM
I keep hearing this idea about driving up the price of silver get kicked around in libertarian circles.

that would give china a real boost as theyre sitting on the biggest silver reserves in the world.  Not sure how that would impact the recent agreement between china and russia to trade with each other in only their own currencies and drop the dollar.

I'll do some digging around this weekend and see what I come up with.
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#9
December 03, 2010, 05:43:20 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 03, 2010, 05:41:23 PM
I keep hearing this idea about driving up the price of silver get kicked around in libertarian circles.

Goldbugs.   :lulz:
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- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Disco Pickle

#10
December 03, 2010, 05:46:22 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 03, 2010, 05:43:20 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 03, 2010, 05:41:23 PM
I keep hearing this idea about driving up the price of silver get kicked around in libertarian circles.

Goldbugs.   :lulz:

I know, I know.

but man I really do wish I'd have been in a position to buy a bunch 10 years ago and just sit on it.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

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#11
December 03, 2010, 05:47:38 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 03, 2010, 05:46:22 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 03, 2010, 05:43:20 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 03, 2010, 05:41:23 PM
I keep hearing this idea about driving up the price of silver get kicked around in libertarian circles.

Goldbugs.   :lulz:

I know, I know.

but man I really do wish I'd have been in a position to buy a bunch 10 years ago and just sit on it.

I bounced 6 ounces of gold I bought at $400, when the price went over the $1000 mark.  It only took 20 years.

:lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Suu

#12
December 03, 2010, 05:50:10 PM
Silver is already unusually high. I think it may have been higher like waaaaay over 50 years ago, but it's high.
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#13
December 03, 2010, 05:51:50 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 03, 2010, 12:07:20 AM
But then he starts telling me about the "zionazi's"

At this point, you stop taking him seriously, and re-introduce yourself as "Solomon Abraham", and tell him to expect a visit.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Disco Pickle

#14
December 03, 2010, 05:54:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 03, 2010, 05:47:38 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 03, 2010, 05:46:22 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 03, 2010, 05:43:20 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 03, 2010, 05:41:23 PM
I keep hearing this idea about driving up the price of silver get kicked around in libertarian circles.

Goldbugs.   :lulz:

I know, I know.

but man I really do wish I'd have been in a position to buy a bunch 10 years ago and just sit on it.

I bounced 6 ounces of gold I bought at $400, when the price went over the $1000 mark.  It only took 20 years.

:lulz:

it's SUPPOSED to be a long term investment that grows slowly and is stable relative to stocks and other paper but (hopefully) outpaces inflation.  

"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann
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