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[LMNO]

Well, I've read all of Bob's books, too.  Including the screenplay and the stageplay.


Sorry you had a bad experience w/ quantup physics.  It's really pretty interesting.

[Bogus Magus]

Nah, I was teaching juggling, and often used to talk about inertia and momentum, and friction and gravity, etc - as part of the spiel (you have to adapt your teaching methods to people's learning methods).

The guy enjoyed the class, and was giving me a lift home, and he mentioned my use of (Newtonian) physics in my descriptions.

I pointed out that I got some people to mimic me (monkey learning) and for others I analyzed it as rhythm (musicians, etc) and for some I did it in patterns in the air (dancers and artists) but I had got him to juggle by talking physics (without knowing he did it for a living).  I taught by 'feel'. Whatever works.

THEN he said he was a quantum physicist, and  (having read Wu-Li Masters, and Tao of Physics and Cosmic Trigger, etc) I tried to pick his brains, and he went "oh no, we don't do all that metaphysics and philosophy".  No biggie.

[LMNO]

Ah.  You were talking to what I call, "a self-important douchebag."



It happens.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Interesting point raised here re quantum physics and hokey things like metaphysics and philosophy. Does quantum physics find a place alongside philosophy, more in the minds, rather than being a complimentary pairing as such?

What I mean is do scientists working in this area tend naturally towards asking the other kind of philosophical questions, as well as the scientific ones?

Reason I'm asking is cos I read hawkins brief history years ago and he was talking about 'god' by about page 7 if I remember.

Was wondering if this is a trend or just one freak?

[Cain]

I hear a few quantumn physicists get into Taoism, and I know of at least one who is into Tantra.

[LMNO]

As far as my main source goes, he's an Athiest who leans a bit Agnostic, and has no stomach for metaphysics, and sees philosophy on a very pragmatic level (i.e. no Trancententalism or Existentialism).


Personally, I don't think a knowledge of Quantum Physics would really bend anyone's mind in any particular philisophical direction, as long as you refuse to say the phrase, "god did it".  Just because you're figuring out the fundamental building blocks of the universe, and just because things start happening beyond the realm of human experience when they get really small, doesn't have to affect your feelings of spirituality, God, Magick, or the lack of the same.

It does, however, make it very hard to "prove" in any sort of scientific way.

[Bogus Magus]

I hear a few quantumn physicists get into Taoism, and I know of at least one who is into Tantra.

You might like Niels Bohr's coat-of-arms


Uh, and oh, the Latin

Contraria sunt complementa = opposites are complementary

If you like The Copenhagen Interpretation, of course.

[rivetrenuck]

if you dont mind me commenting, i dont see why not?

Taoism and Tantra has nothing to do with invisible god or fictional characters. their very down to earth, and i would see very important for an individual to build themselves.

of course skeptisim should be maintained at all cost, but taoism and tantras are philosophies and methods which i personaly feel are important for the development of the mind.

so far ive only read the Tao Te Ching, but even that changed me alot

[LMNO]

if you dont mind me commenting, i dont see why not?

Taoism and Tantra has nothing to do with invisible god or fictional characters. their very down to earth, and i would see very important for an individual to build themselves.

of course skeptisim should be maintained at all cost, but taoism and tantras are philosophies and methods which i personaly feel are important for the development of the mind.

so far ive only read the Tao Te Ching, but even that changed me alot

This is a suggestion, but before you make sweeping statements about Taoism and Hinduism, it might be a good idea to do more than read one book of vague and paradoxical poems from a centuries-old dead Chinese guy.

[B_M_W]

if you dont mind me commenting, i dont see why not?

Taoism and Tantra has nothing to do with invisible god or fictional characters. their very down to earth, and i would see very important for an individual to build themselves.

of course skeptisim should be maintained at all cost, but taoism and tantras are philosophies and methods which i personaly feel are important for the development of the mind.

so far ive only read the Tao Te Ching, but even that changed me alot

This is a suggestion, but before you make sweeping statements about Taoism and Hinduism, it might be a good idea to do more than read one book of vague and paradoxical poems from a centuries-old dead Chinese guy.

Yeah, I was gonna say, Lie-tse and Chung-tse are both central texts of taoism, and they go on and on about immortals and mythical creatures at times, and they were supposed to be Lao-tse's diciples.

That is, if you buy into the idea that Lao-tse was a real person in the first place.

[Cain]

Lu-Tze would pwn Lao-Tze any day of the week.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Cao Cao would fucking anybody!

...cept maybe Zhuge Liang - he'd nevar catch that bastard

[LMNO]

Lu-Tze would pwn Lao-Tze any day of the week.

NEVAR FORGET RULE NUMBER ONE!

[Triple Zero]

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