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Alright, I'm gonna lay this out.

Started by AFK, July 16, 2007, 04:22:32 PM

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AFK

I know call this meeting of Discordists Anonymous to order.

"I'll have a ham on rye!"

Shuddap!

Okay folks.  I admit it.  It's happened.  I swore that it never would, but it did anyway.

I have become.....ooh it sickens me thinking of it....


complacent.


Yup, I freely admit it, I have become complacent.

I've got the house, I've got the wonderful wife, the beautiful, creative, and spirited daughter.  I've got the 2-car garage, complete with two cars.  I have graduated from lower middle-class to mid middle-class.  I've got the job that gets me networking with all of the State heavies, and the sky is the limit for me career-wise.  My family is financially secure and at this point we have little to worry about. 

Help me!

I KNOW that just because I'm now happy in my little speck of the Universe that all of the bad stuff hasn't gone away.  I know The Machinetm is still out there, constantly paving the roads with bones.  I know that the Policticians are just as crooked as they've ever been.  I know there are 20 something saps in the desert who are being expended like Red Plastic Cups.  I know the collective imagination of humanity has festered and stalled for the past few decades, if not longer.  I know all of this to be true.

But....

Damnit, I'm happy.  I also admit, sometimes I just don't give a fuck about anyone else.  Yeah, I know it's selfish.  But fuck it.  Sometimes I just don't care.

It's hard to get riled up about the human condition when your condition is minty fresh.

And this, my friends, is exactly why nothing ever gets done.  Why progress seems to be made in ant-steps.  Why molehills become Everests and McKinleys.  Who wants to bother to struggle, to care, when at the end of the day, it doesn't pertain to them.  Or at least, they don't see how it pertains to them. 

I think the problem becomes, instead of us rallying together to make one bunker, we've built a series of bunkers, complete with moats of flesh-eating acid.  We're safe as long as we stay in our little fortifications. 

The question becomes, how does this change?  Can it change without the world melting around everyone?  I think being here with all of you I still have a connection to keep me honest.  While I am happy, and I have become complacent, I still know, at the end of it all, anything can happen.  It's just hard to keep it at the front of your mind when your mind isn't in that space. 

So, there it is.  What next?
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

LMNO

Buy a digital recorder, and collaborate with me, ECH, LHX, and TOG over the intertpipes.


Either that, or start doing something that makes you uncomfortable.

Cramulus


AFK

Quote from: LMNO on July 16, 2007, 04:24:44 PM
Buy a digital recorder, and collaborate with me, ECH, LHX, and TOG over the intertpipes.


Either that, or start doing something that makes you uncomfortable.

I've got a shipment of instruments arriving today.  You guys need any Kalimba or Slide Whistle tracks?   :D
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: LMNO on July 16, 2007, 04:24:44 PM
Buy a digital recorder, and collaborate with me, ECH, LHX, and TOG over the intertpipes.


Either that, or start doing something that makes you uncomfortable.

like meth?
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Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

LHX

RWHN
he showin his age again
unhappy with the plush life of successful american
barbecues and play pens
road trips loungin at the Days Inn
no longer phased by rumors of AIDS in africans
complacent
restless
"how does this change?" is the question
encouraging the masses to be born again discordian
shrapnel embeddin
producing audio of a unknown origin
baptised as the illigitimate son of convention
hard to sacrifice the present
by acting without discretion
specially with a youngster and a wifey second-guessin



i aint got no answers


at least you detect the complacency tho


its hard to move away from comfort

the only thing you can do is determine if that comfort is legitimate or not
and if it rests on a solid foundation
neat hell

AFK

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

LMNO

Even tho my flow is wack, I might try to lay this down.

P3nT4gR4m

The ship sinks slowly.

As it descends the stern is pointing upwards and the passengers scramble for the ever more crowded space at the top.

Fighting becomes more vicious as space becomes less and the fallen drown.

If you have a nice secure place in the tail section complacency is easy to adopt, after all what's the point of living if it aint a happy life?

But the boat is sinking and eventually everyone is gonna drown.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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Quote from: SillyCybin on July 16, 2007, 05:18:23 PM
The ship sinks slowly.

As it descends the stern is pointing upwards and the passengers scramble for the ever more crowded space at the top.

Fighting becomes more vicious as space becomes less and the fallen drown.

If you have a nice secure place in the tail section complacency is easy to adopt, after all what's the point of living if it aint a happy life?

But the boat is sinking and eventually everyone is gonna drown.

Fuck that, I took the plane.
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"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man."
- William Shakespeare

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Triple Zero

now, correct me if i'm being completely stupid here.

as far as i remember you've had your fair amount of struggling to get where you are right now, RWHN. finally you've hit a plateau where you can rest for a little while. man, i wish i could EVER find such a place, but that's besides the point here.

you seem to know that the world isn't in fact as shiny as it appears to you now.

but relatively speaking to what went on before, live is peaches!

my suggestion for now: take it easy, enjoy it while it lasts, and last but not least, stick around here, cause i'm certain something will catch your eye sooner or later (and probably sooner than you'd like).

but IMO there's no need to actually go looking for trouble when you've finally hit a point where things aren't as turbulent as they have been. nothing lasts, but nothing is lost. all composite phenomena are impermanent.
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e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 16, 2007, 04:22:32 PM

I have become.....ooh it sickens me thinking of it....


complacent.


Yup, I freely admit it, I have become complacent.

...

Damnit, I'm happy.  I also admit, sometimes I just don't give a fuck about anyone else.  Yeah, I know it's selfish.  But fuck it.  Sometimes I just don't care.


What's wrong with that, if that is what you want to do?

Knowing that the Con exists... knowing that the machine is in the works... knowing that people can't really think for themselves, doesn't make it incumbent upon you personally to try to fix it. If you fix it, only in your own life... that's a helluva lot better than most people will ever do.

Christianity and Political parties teach us that we should convert people to our side. While it may be useful to convert people to Discordianism (in some sense), it's not a requirement or even a recommendation. You must choose for yourself what actions you want to do and what actions you don't want to do. As long as you're careful not to fall into the trap yourself... you can tell the world to sod off.

Or, if that's not what you want to do... then don't do it. If you want to be a Discordian activist, then be a Discordian activist. If you want to sow seeds of doubt in society, then do it.

You get control over your life (and your life alone). You get to choose how you will use the Golden Apple. You can hurl it at a punchbowl, you can put it on an Alter in the most private part of your reality. Its up to you. There are no rules, there is no requirement for evangelism, do as thou Will is the whole of the Law.

- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

AFK

Quote from: triple zero on July 16, 2007, 06:07:33 PM
now, correct me if i'm being completely stupid here.

as far as i remember you've had your fair amount of struggling to get where you are right now, RWHN. finally you've hit a plateau where you can rest for a little while. man, i wish i could EVER find such a place, but that's besides the point here.

you seem to know that the world isn't in fact as shiny as it appears to you now.

but relatively speaking to what went on before, live is peaches!

my suggestion for now: take it easy, enjoy it while it lasts, and last but not least, stick around here, cause i'm certain something will catch your eye sooner or later (and probably sooner than you'd like).

but IMO there's no need to actually go looking for trouble when you've finally hit a point where things aren't as turbulent as they have been. nothing lasts, but nothing is lost. all composite phenomena are impermanent.

I think I am experiencing some sort of guilt from not being able to contribute anything worthwhile around here except for the lame jokes and half-baked (and sticky) metaphors. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 16, 2007, 06:23:09 PM
I think I am experiencing some sort of guilt from not being able to contribute anything worthwhile around here except for the lame jokes and half-baked (and sticky) metaphors. 

Guilt is the product of the Dying God. You MUST Sacrifice, YOU MUST proselytize, YOu Have Found the Truth, You Must Spread It.

If you feel guilty about anything Discordian, you may want to adjust your paradigm and see if it helps ;-)
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Ratatosk on July 16, 2007, 06:19:41 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 16, 2007, 04:22:32 PM

I have become.....ooh it sickens me thinking of it....


complacent.


Yup, I freely admit it, I have become complacent.

...

Damnit, I'm happy.  I also admit, sometimes I just don't give a fuck about anyone else.  Yeah, I know it's selfish.  But fuck it.  Sometimes I just don't care.


What's wrong with that, if that is what you want to do?

Knowing that the Con exists... knowing that the machine is in the works... knowing that people can't really think for themselves, doesn't make it incumbent upon you personally to try to fix it. If you fix it, only in your own life... that's a helluva lot better than most people will ever do.

Christianity and Political parties teach us that we should convert people to our side. While it may be useful to convert people to Discordianism (in some sense), it's not a requirement or even a recommendation. You must choose for yourself what actions you want to do and what actions you don't want to do. As long as you're careful not to fall into the trap yourself... you can tell the world to sod off.

Or, if that's not what you want to do... then don't do it. If you want to be a Discordian activist, then be a Discordian activist. If you want to sow seeds of doubt in society, then do it.

You get control over your life (and your life alone). You get to choose how you will use the Golden Apple. You can hurl it at a punchbowl, you can put it on an Alter in the most private part of your reality. Its up to you. There are no rules, there is no requirement for evangelism, do as thou Will is the whole of the Law.



Please to be not stealing the contents of my fucking head!

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark