THE CANCER KILLING PDCOM - Blow-by-Blow Coverage of Democratic Primary Race

[LMNO]

Wait, you don't think Obama is gonna bring "real, actual change," do you?


Take a peep at MA's new gov, Deval Patrick.  He ran on the same things as Barak is doing.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

Except Barack Obama has actually produced results in the last 20 years. Besides, if he's a sell-out, I'd rather have an Obama dictatorship than a McCain dictatorship, and god help us if Hillary gets in.

[LMNO]

Except Barack Obama has actually produced results in the last 20 years.

[citation needed]

[Jenne]

He can't literally bring actual REAL change the way WE want it anyway.  No possible, not with politicians.

The fact a black man with Muslim roots will be in office is change enough, in several ways. 

Besides that, he's talking a good game right now, and what can I say, I'm a sucker for some honeyed words right now.  Must be Springtime.

[LMNO]

He can't literally bring actual REAL change the way WE want it anyway.  No possible, not with politicians.

The fact a black man with Muslim roots

[citation really fucking needed]

[Jenne]

Oh stop.  I didn't say  he was Muslim.  I said he has Muslim roots.  I'm not playing the Republitard smoosh game, obviously.

Feh.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

Except Barack Obama has actually produced results in the last 20 years.

[citation needed]

State senate :
Adds health insurance for 20,000 children, Welfare reform,
Earned income tax credit, increased minimum wage ($5.15 to
$6.50). Death penalty reform making interrogations be video
taped passed Senate 58-0, signed to law by governor who first
opposed Obama's bill. Sponsored bill probing police profiling.

Federal Senate:
Jan. 2007, major ethics/lobbying reform bill, w/ Russ Feingold
insisted tougher measures banning lobbyist gifts/ meals/ jets,
disclosure of earmark & contribution bundling to candidates or
committees; restricts retiring Congress from going into lobbying

Cosponsored Secure Orderly Immigration Act by John
McCain. Passed 62-36. Makes undocumented persons who
have been here 5+ years only allowed to stay and apply for
citizenship, if pay back taxes, learn English and no criminal
record. 2 million undocumented persons who have been in the
United States for less than two years would be ordered home.

Worked for $13,000 / year helping inner city Chicago poor.
Registered 150,000 people to vote. Graduated first black
president of Harvard Law Review, passed over 600 high money
law firm offers to work for civil rights practice at fractional pay.
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obviously this is the cherry-picked obama propaganda shit. but they are true, and imho, anyone for whom these things are true can't be 100% evil, and even 98% evil beats the other two.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Except Barack Obama has actually produced results in the last 20 years.

[citation needed]

State senate :
Adds health insurance for 20,000 children, Welfare reform,
Earned income tax credit, increased minimum wage ($5.15 to
$6.50). Death penalty reform making interrogations be video
taped passed Senate 58-0, signed to law by governor who first
opposed Obama's bill. Sponsored bill probing police profiling.

Federal Senate:
Jan. 2007, major ethics/lobbying reform bill, w/ Russ Feingold
insisted tougher measures banning lobbyist gifts/ meals/ jets,
disclosure of earmark & contribution bundling to candidates or
committees; restricts retiring Congress from going into lobbying

Cosponsored Secure Orderly Immigration Act by John
McCain. Passed 62-36. Makes undocumented persons who
have been here 5+ years only allowed to stay and apply for
citizenship, if pay back taxes, learn English and no criminal
record. 2 million undocumented persons who have been in the
United States for less than two years would be ordered home.

Worked for $13,000 / year helping inner city Chicago poor.
Registered 150,000 people to vote. Graduated first black
president of Harvard Law Review, passed over 600 high money
law firm offers to work for civil rights practice at fractional pay.
----
obviously this is the cherry-picked obama propaganda shit. but they are true, and imho, anyone for whom these things are true can't be 100% evil, and even 98% evil beats the other two.

So both of his federal accomplishments were basically hanging on McCain's coattails? Real way to instigate change there

[Cain]

Like with Ron Paul, the only way Obama is really going to change things is by causing a split within the Party which will allow progressives to gain control of one faction and stop aping Repulican-lite policies.

And that does not seem likely, despite this election highlighting weakpoints between official Party policy and grassroots support, on both sides.

[Cain]

for mccain, he better hope to christ that hillary wins the dem nomination, because he will beat her in a national election. after all they are both war hawks, they are both corporate goons, and they both have a habit of pandering to anybody who will listen to them during a campaign and then forget about them once they're in office. i know in that situation my vote for president will be a write-in for John Quincy Adams (4 MOAR YEARS!), but most people will pick mccain because he's more likable than hillary and more retarded than Bush.

That would explain why Rush Limbaugh was encouraging people to break Federal law in Ohio and urge Republicans to change affiliation for a day and vote for Clinton.

Incidentally, that can get you fined $2000, IIRC.

[Triple Zero]

so, people around keep asking me--goddess knows why--what i'd vote for in the upcoming elections.

so i tell them that i am not a US-citizen and therefore excused from having to make this decision.

so they say, but what if you were a US-citizen, would you then vote for obama/hillary/mccain/etc?

anybody got any brilliant advice to tell them?

of course they're just trying to make conversation, so perhaps i could just bend the subject over to the weather or something

[Requia ☣]

Tell them Jon Stewart.  It's about as much respect as a question like that deserves.   

Or just say Obama, so that they go away.

[Cain]

Say you're voting Huckabee, regardless of results.

[Cramulus]

NOODLE PARTY 08

[Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ]

WOOOOOOOO