On the socialization of children

[Nephew Twiddleton]

He's mishandling a theory that information may travel faster than light.  This would solve the QUIP problem, but no one's sure exactly how to deal with it.

What's the QUIP problem?

[Doktor Howl]

Quex, Kilgore Trout?

What are you on about?

Kurt Vonnegut character from Breakfast of Champions et al.

He's proposing Vonnegut as a physicist of some sort, I think.

Oh.

Yes. Quex- please to note that as far as we can tell, this is not a book.

Nothing with this shitty of a plot would ever get published on anything more than lulu, anyway.

[Doktor Howl]

He's mishandling a theory that information may travel faster than light.  This would solve the QUIP problem, but no one's sure exactly how to deal with it.

What's the QUIP problem?

Quantumly Unique Interzone Penis.

[LMNO]

He's mishandling a theory that information may travel faster than light.

BALLS.  

He's trying to conflate "awareness" with "information".  Taking "quantum tunneling" and shitting some Zen garbage all over it.

DANCING WU LI MASTERS, YOU'RE ON IN 5!

Apologies, I wasn't speaking in R-Prime.  Your answer is correct.

He's mishandling a theory that information may travel faster than light.  This would solve the QUIP problem, but no one's sure exactly how to deal with it.

What's the QUIP problem?

Quantum inseperability.  Crudely stated, two particles that have been in contact with each other appear to act as if they are exchanging information at a distance instantaneously.  If you'd like, I can get technical.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Perhaps we should even go back so far as to ask what we consider consciousness to be in the first place.

After all, if I consider it to be a confluence of electrochemical processes in my body, then I may be of the viewpoint that when those processes stop, so does my consciousness.

An excellent point! And I think that hits on a key issue that 000 was pointing to. What you consider and what your viewpoint is are probably the most valid statements you can make on the topic. Yet, they're probably not statements that we can apply Occam's Razor to, simply because they aren't statements that are scientific observation, but rather opinion, viewpoint or belief (depending on the individual and how strongly they feel about their position).

So we have your position. I think you've pretty clearly stated it. (though you said IF so maybe it's just an example, I'm not sure).

Personally, I'm torn. On the one hand, there does seem to be a lot of evidence that the neurological system with its electro-chemical processes are inextricably tied to consciousness... On the other hand, we have examples of people who have little or no brain mass and yet display behavior that appears to be normal consciousness. So at the very least, I am skeptical that we understand enough, and I consider that there MAY be something more, perhaps another series of processes in the body, perhaps tied to something else.

It's a tricky question...

[Doktor Howl]

He's mishandling a theory that information may travel faster than light.

BALLS.  

He's trying to conflate "awareness" with "information".  Taking "quantum tunneling" and shitting some Zen garbage all over it.

DANCING WU LI MASTERS, YOU'RE ON IN 5!

Apologies, I wasn't speaking in R-Prime.  Your answer is correct.

You know, sometimes I wonder if I get a little too excitable about certain subjects.

Then I shrug, slam another 24 OZ coffee, and spend the rest of the afternoon wondering why I always feel like I have tachycardia.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

He's mishandling a theory that information may travel faster than light.

BALLS.  

He's trying to conflate "awareness" with "information".  Taking "quantum tunneling" and shitting some Zen garbage all over it.

DANCING WU LI MASTERS, YOU'RE ON IN 5!

Apologies, I wasn't speaking in R-Prime.  Your answer is correct.

He's mishandling a theory that information may travel faster than light.  This would solve the QUIP problem, but no one's sure exactly how to deal with it.

What's the QUIP problem?

Quantum inseperability.  Crudely stated, two particles that have been in contact with each other appear to act as if they are exchanging information at a distance instantaneously.  If you'd like, I can get technical.

More than happy to hear about it, but I might ask a dumb question here or there.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Quantum inseperability.  Crudely stated, two particles that have been in contact with each other appear to act as if they are exchanging information at a distance instantaneously.  If you'd like, I can get technical.

Something you could clarify for me, if'n you don't mind. I've heard tell of this QUIP and was wondering - has science actually now recorded two tiny little pieces of stuff clearly exchanging over a distance like some kind of telepathy or teleportation or something or is my interpretation the usual case of - layman get wrong end of double-slit stick?

Cos if it's the former then surely this changes just about fucking everything?

[LMNO]

I'll start another thread in Techmology and Scientism.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I'll start another thread in Techmology and Scientism.

Sweet

[Cosine 5]

He's mishandling a theory that information may travel faster than light. 

BALLS. 

He's trying to conflate "awareness" with "information".  Taking "quantum tunneling" and shitting some Zen garbage all over it.

DANCING WU LI MASTERS, YOU'RE ON IN 5!

This is marvelous.

[Doktor Howl]

Quantum inseperability.  Crudely stated, two particles that have been in contact with each other appear to act as if they are exchanging information at a distance instantaneously.  If you'd like, I can get technical.

Something you could clarify for me, if'n you don't mind. I've heard tell of this QUIP and was wondering - has science actually now recorded two tiny little pieces of stuff clearly exchanging over a distance like some kind of telepathy or teleportation or something or is my interpretation the usual case of - layman get wrong end of double-slit stick?

Cos if it's the former then surely this changes just about fucking everything?

Well, what does the math say, LMNO?  Because that's all you really need to know.

[Doktor Howl]

He's mishandling a theory that information may travel faster than light. 

BALLS. 

He's trying to conflate "awareness" with "information".  Taking "quantum tunneling" and shitting some Zen garbage all over it.

DANCING WU LI MASTERS, YOU'RE ON IN 5!

This is marvelous.

I'm a marvelous guy.  Sometimes I get so fucking marvelous that I shit all over my desk chair, with the sound of a dying diesel engine and the smell of Cincinnati in August.  Then I have to eat more chicken skin, or my marvelous reserves get too low and I start taking metaphysical bullshit all seriously, and Nurse Freeky has to whack me with the tenderizing hammer again.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Quantum inseperability.  Crudely stated, two particles that have been in contact with each other appear to act as if they are exchanging information at a distance instantaneously.  If you'd like, I can get technical.

Something you could clarify for me, if'n you don't mind. I've heard tell of this QUIP and was wondering - has science actually now recorded two tiny little pieces of stuff clearly exchanging over a distance like some kind of telepathy or teleportation or something or is my interpretation the usual case of - layman get wrong end of double-slit stick?

Cos if it's the former then surely this changes just about fucking everything?

It is currently being used in cryptographic applications.

[Kai]

This thread...I don't even know.