What's this Kony thing?

[Oysters Rockefeller]

The USA has limited resources, military or otherwise, and almost unlimited theatres demanding attention (no doubt due to the money, training, arms and security that often comes with such attention).  The US also has a terrible record of using humanitarian campaigns as a guise for enriching its elite, politically connected class, and also failing to live up to its allegedly humanitarian concerns in prosecuting the conflict, or in directing its proxies in how to prosecute it.  The US has shown it cannot successfully prosecute campaigns against irregular combatants, or impose a Pax Americana in unstable parts of the world.

That alone should persuade people that getting involved would be a bad idea.

Fair point.

2.  You seem to have decided what I do and do not know about the situation.  There is no conversation, here.  There is me, trying to make my point, and you, already having decided what my point is.  Bailing on this topic, now.  You just keep on with what you're doing.

Dude...I just said I'm not talking about anybody in particular, and you chose to assume I was talking about you. Come on, now.

[Doktor Howl]

Jesus H Christ.  Just who the fuck WERE you talking about, then?

Christ, I hate when people wimp out after making an inflammatory statement.

[Don Coyote]

The USA has limited resources, military or otherwise, and almost unlimited theatres demanding attention (no doubt due to the money, training, arms and security that often comes with such attention).  The US also has a terrible record of using humanitarian campaigns as a guise for enriching its elite, politically connected class, and also failing to live up to its allegedly humanitarian concerns in prosecuting the conflict, or in directing its proxies in how to prosecute it.  The US has shown it cannot successfully prosecute campaigns against irregular combatants, or impose a Pax Americana in unstable parts of the world.

That alone should persuade people that getting involved would be a bad idea.

Fair point.

2.  You seem to have decided what I do and do not know about the situation.  There is no conversation, here.  There is me, trying to make my point, and you, already having decided what my point is.  Bailing on this topic, now.  You just keep on with what you're doing.

Dude...I just said I'm not talking about anybody in particular, and you chose to assume I was talking about you. Come on, now.

Now I might just be a dumbass from the Army, but it did seem rather pointedly directed at Dok.

[Oysters Rockefeller]

I'm just saying, food for thought, that maybe some people, not mentioning any names, are more focused on being cynical than being helpful.

Well, let's not be passive-aggressive about it, hmm?

You say "cynical", I say "realism".

Or is there some magic about America or Europe, where we can solve the problems they can't handle?  Are we smarter, or something?

Maybe it's because we are whiter.

I wasn't gonna go there, but since Oysters feels confident in telling me what I know and what I think, it works as well as anything else.

Oysters believes that those poor Black people just can't get on without our pearly-White assistance.

Why would you assume I'm putting words in your mouth, and then put racism into mine? Did I say white people? I haven't even described my race on this forum, so you don't even really know that I'm white. Just an interesting point.

Also, since I get the feeling people aren't reading all of what I write...

MILITARY INTERVENTION IS A BAD IDEA. I DO NOT SUPPORT IT.

[Doktor Howl]

Of course it was directed at me, Coyote.

But why discuss anything, when you can just jam words in someone's mouth and then claim you were talking about someone else?

[Cain]

All my arguments can also be used for "measures short of war" which the US or any other actor may undertake to alter the regional balance of power, I'd like to add.

Furthermore, I'd like to add that aid agencies have a terrible reputation in central Africa, and with good cause.  Aid agencies help prolong conflict, as they almost invariably have to pay tribute to the regional leader of the area they are operating in.  Furthermore, they are obliged to take no sides in the conflict itself...which leads to situations like aid agencies looking after the Hutu genocidaires after they fled Rwanda following the 1994 genocide they initiated.

Religious aid agencies are just as bad...all they really want are refugee porn to keep their coffers filled.  There are villages in central Africa where there are three prosethetic limbs to each actual missing limb the villagers have.  The villagers are actually rich from government assistance and international attention, while those who truly require help are ignored.  They also go over there and "adopt" children, who then appear on US chat shows, with scripted dialogues describing the situation in a political manner befitting the agency who brought them over.  As soon as they become trouble, they're dumped back in their home villages.

[LMNO]

Jesus H Christ.  Just who the fuck WERE you talking about, then?

Christ, I hate when people wimp out after making an inflammatory statement.

Probably me.  In fairness, my response to the OP could have been taken as, "Fuck those Christians who want to help out an African nation."

[Doktor Howl]

I'm just saying, food for thought, that maybe some people, not mentioning any names, are more focused on being cynical than being helpful.

Well, let's not be passive-aggressive about it, hmm?

You say "cynical", I say "realism".

Or is there some magic about America or Europe, where we can solve the problems they can't handle?  Are we smarter, or something?

Maybe it's because we are whiter.

I wasn't gonna go there, but since Oysters feels confident in telling me what I know and what I think, it works as well as anything else.

Oysters believes that those poor Black people just can't get on without our pearly-White assistance.

Why would you assume I'm putting words in your mouth, and then put racism into mine? Did I say white people? I haven't even described my race on this forum, so you don't even really know that I'm white. Just an interesting point.

Also, since I get the feeling people aren't reading all of what I write...

MILITARY INTERVENTION IS A BAD IDEA. I DO NOT SUPPORT IT.

You make a couple of nice points, but I think I'd just rather assume you are ignorant, and then put words in your fucking mouth.

So...

Why do you think Africans are stupid?  Does that extend to African-Americans, as well?

[Oysters Rockefeller]

Alright, my bad. I apologize if you felt I meant you, Dok. Totally didn't mean it that way.

My central idea about people being cynical is derived from a facebook arguement with some friends of a friend of mine, wherein they decided "fuck the whole thing" while putting zero effort into learning any of it. I say they put zero effort because, when asked to elaborate, they wouldn't.

[Doktor Howl]

Jesus H Christ.  Just who the fuck WERE you talking about, then?

Christ, I hate when people wimp out after making an inflammatory statement.

Probably me.  In fairness, my response to the OP could have been taken as, "Fuck those Christians who want to help out an African nation."

Pretty sure that's not the case, LMNO.  This isn't the only thread in which he's pulled this shit.

Dok,
Noob-magnet.

[Doktor Howl]

Alright, my bad. I apologize if you felt I meant you, Dok. Totally didn't mean it that way.

My central idea about people being cynical is derived from a facebook arguement with some friends of a friend of mine, wherein they decided "fuck the whole thing" while putting zero effort into learning any of it. I say they put zero effort because, when asked to elaborate, they wouldn't.

Yeah, that totally explains why you contrasted Cain against the posts in question, in the context of this thread.

Grow a fucking pair.

[LMNO]

Jesus H Christ.  Just who the fuck WERE you talking about, then?

Christ, I hate when people wimp out after making an inflammatory statement.

Probably me.  In fairness, my response to the OP could have been taken as, "Fuck those Christians who want to help out an African nation."

Pretty sure that's not the case, LMNO.  This isn't the only thread in which he's pulled this shit.

Dok,
Noob-magnet.

Mine.  MINE!

[Junkenstein]

Furthermore, I'd like to add that aid agencies have a terrible reputation in central Africa, and with good cause.  Aid agencies help prolong conflict, as they almost invariably have to pay tribute to the regional leader of the area they are operating in.  Furthermore, they are obliged to take no sides in the conflict itself...which leads to situations like aid agencies looking after the Hutu genocidaires after they fled Rwanda following the 1994 genocide they initiated.

The hilariously depressing thing is how often things like that have occurred.

Not even touching the massive AIDS and anti-condom issues.

[Oysters Rockefeller]

Alright, my bad. I apologize if you felt I meant you, Dok. Totally didn't mean it that way.

My central idea about people being cynical is derived from a facebook arguement with some friends of a friend of mine, wherein they decided "fuck the whole thing" while putting zero effort into learning any of it. I say they put zero effort because, when asked to elaborate, they wouldn't.

Yeah, that totally explains why you contrasted Cain against the posts in question, in the context of this thread.

Grow a fucking pair.

I'd be interested in you referencing specifically how I told Cain he was wrong.

Jesus H Christ.  Just who the fuck WERE you talking about, then?

Christ, I hate when people wimp out after making an inflammatory statement.

Probably me.  In fairness, my response to the OP could have been taken as, "Fuck those Christians who want to help out an African nation."

Pretty sure that's not the case, LMNO.  This isn't the only thread in which he's pulled this shit.

Dok,
Noob-magnet.

You have a tendency to think I have something against you. I'm not sure why, but it is what it is. I'm fairly certain, despite repeated apologies, that I can't convince you otherwise.

[Doktor Howl]

Jesus H Christ.  Just who the fuck WERE you talking about, then?

Christ, I hate when people wimp out after making an inflammatory statement.

Probably me.  In fairness, my response to the OP could have been taken as, "Fuck those Christians who want to help out an African nation."

Pretty sure that's not the case, LMNO.  This isn't the only thread in which he's pulled this shit.

Dok,
Noob-magnet.

Mine.  MINE!

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