OPEN BAR: I see you've come to PD. I too like to live dangerously

[Faust]

Well that's reassuring at least, It could result in a weak last season if all the details weren't there but at least even if he croaks they will have the overall plot.

[Cain]

I was surprised the duel wasn't saved for next week's episode.  I mean, it was pretty flashy and all, but I do remember it being somewhat...longer.

Then again, that probably wouldn't leave time for what comes next.

This season has been interesting, because it's actually mingling the plotlines from two different books.  As such, the pace and sequence of events are taking on a more significant and urgent tone than they do in the writing.

I still think the "great plot reveal" from A Dance With Dragons is twee as fuck, though.  I can see that losing GoT a lot of respect, if not viewers.

[Suu]

GRRM played the game and won. Authors make money from advances and royalties once the advance is paid off by sales. Clearly, he doesn't get paid any advances unless he comes out with new books, so he was banking on royalties...until HBO happened. Now every time HBO airs an episode, sells a t-shirt, or says anything about "Game of Thrones," he gets a cut. The only issue is that they will run out of material if he doesn't finish it the fuck up soon. This season just finished the 3rd book. The 4th and 5th have concurrent timelines, and HBO has already started to pick at it. They've managed to mangle some things, and insert their own smaller plots for the sake of drawing out episodes for the sake that he will get off his ass and write more, but why should he? He's a goddamn millionaire, now.

[Cain]

Did an impromptu night shift last night.  Never. Again.  The extra £2 an hour simply is not worth it.  Then again, no-one ever did care work to become rich, I suppose...

[Cain]

So, Netflix summaries kinda screwed up...with hilarious results.

[Junkenstein]

GRRM played the game and won. Authors make money from advances and royalties once the advance is paid off by sales. Clearly, he doesn't get paid any advances unless he comes out with new books, so he was banking on royalties...until HBO happened. Now every time HBO airs an episode, sells a t-shirt, or says anything about "Game of Thrones," he gets a cut. The only issue is that they will run out of material if he doesn't finish it the fuck up soon. This season just finished the 3rd book. The 4th and 5th have concurrent timelines, and HBO has already started to pick at it. They've managed to mangle some things, and insert their own smaller plots for the sake of drawing out episodes for the sake that he will get off his ass and write more, but why should he? He's a goddamn millionaire, now.

It's no longer really in his control though. It was a condition for the show being made that he reveals the plot, pretty much in full. Personally, I really don't give a fuck if he writes another thing ever again. He's happy showing bad films in his cinema and probably doesn't give a fuck either.

Several authors end up as millionaires and still have the decency to crank out the remaining books. I'd have some respect for the man if he just said "Fuck it, can't be bothered" than gibbering on about how hard he's working and how many pages he's completed. If you're bored the anti-fandom of GRRM is quite amusing. People have had a while to get properly outraged so there's GRAPHS and everything now. The war cry of "Finish the book George" is fantastic. I'd quite like him to turn up at one of his dozens of con attendances and just have the entire audience use that heckle until he gets the fucking message. 

[Faust]

It sounds like I've missed out on a lot of heartache by just watching the TV show. Good.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

So, Netflix summaries kinda screwed up...with hilarious results.

What the hell?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

GRRM played the game and won. Authors make money from advances and royalties once the advance is paid off by sales. Clearly, he doesn't get paid any advances unless he comes out with new books, so he was banking on royalties...until HBO happened. Now every time HBO airs an episode, sells a t-shirt, or says anything about "Game of Thrones," he gets a cut. The only issue is that they will run out of material if he doesn't finish it the fuck up soon. This season just finished the 3rd book. The 4th and 5th have concurrent timelines, and HBO has already started to pick at it. They've managed to mangle some things, and insert their own smaller plots for the sake of drawing out episodes for the sake that he will get off his ass and write more, but why should he? He's a goddamn millionaire, now.

It's no longer really in his control though. It was a condition for the show being made that he reveals the plot, pretty much in full. Personally, I really don't give a fuck if he writes another thing ever again. He's happy showing bad films in his cinema and probably doesn't give a fuck either.

Several authors end up as millionaires and still have the decency to crank out the remaining books. I'd have some respect for the man if he just said "Fuck it, can't be bothered" than gibbering on about how hard he's working and how many pages he's completed. If you're bored the anti-fandom of GRRM is quite amusing. People have had a while to get properly outraged so there's GRAPHS and everything now. The war cry of "Finish the book George" is fantastic. I'd quite like him to turn up at one of his dozens of con attendances and just have the entire audience use that heckle until he gets the fucking message.

My ex was a George RR Martin fan when we were dating, some time before the show came out, and he was resigned even then to the idea that the guy is gonna die before he finishes the series.

Who knows how hard he's working. Fucker is getting up there, it might be really fucking hard. Those books are impressively long, he could be writing a page a day (better than what YOU'RE doing, let's face it) but honestly, he's still going to die before he finishes the series.

We're all going to die without finishing something. At least this guy is going to die before finishing a science fiction empire that has captured the hearts of millions.

[P3nT4gR4m]

GRRM played the game and won. Authors make money from advances and royalties once the advance is paid off by sales. Clearly, he doesn't get paid any advances unless he comes out with new books, so he was banking on royalties...until HBO happened. Now every time HBO airs an episode, sells a t-shirt, or says anything about "Game of Thrones," he gets a cut. The only issue is that they will run out of material if he doesn't finish it the fuck up soon. This season just finished the 3rd book. The 4th and 5th have concurrent timelines, and HBO has already started to pick at it. They've managed to mangle some things, and insert their own smaller plots for the sake of drawing out episodes for the sake that he will get off his ass and write more, but why should he? He's a goddamn millionaire, now.

It's no longer really in his control though. It was a condition for the show being made that he reveals the plot, pretty much in full. Personally, I really don't give a fuck if he writes another thing ever again. He's happy showing bad films in his cinema and probably doesn't give a fuck either.

Several authors end up as millionaires and still have the decency to crank out the remaining books. I'd have some respect for the man if he just said "Fuck it, can't be bothered" than gibbering on about how hard he's working and how many pages he's completed. If you're bored the anti-fandom of GRRM is quite amusing. People have had a while to get properly outraged so there's GRAPHS and everything now. The war cry of "Finish the book George" is fantastic. I'd quite like him to turn up at one of his dozens of con attendances and just have the entire audience use that heckle until he gets the fucking message.

My ex was a George RR Martin fan when we were dating, some time before the show came out, and he was resigned even then to the idea that the guy is gonna die before he finishes the series.

Who knows how hard he's working. Fucker is getting up there, it might be really fucking hard. Those books are impressively long, he could be writing a page a day (better than what YOU'RE doing, let's face it) but honestly, he's still going to die before he finishes the series.

We're all going to die without finishing something. At least this guy is going to die before finishing a science fiction empire that has captured the hearts of millions.

What do you mean "at least", according to the fans this makes him the new Klaus Barbie

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

It sounds like I've missed out on a lot of heartache by just watching the TV show. Good.

I just finished the existing books about a year and half ago, so I haven't had to wait that long.

I wasn't really super-stoked on the last two books, anyways, and I'm actually liking watching this part more than I did reading it.

Could really use more Strong Belwas, though.

[Junkenstein]

Those last two books are at least partly down to the editor that crossed several professional lines, many times over the years. Basically she doesn't edit a thing and insists that it needs more filler to add to the epic.

The man may have built a good world but he's actively shitting all over it. It would probably irk me less if I hadn't watched this happen over 20 years or so. He's not writing a page a day, a page a month is seriously optimistic. As I said, there are graphs.

Cain, which plot reveal did you mean? Now I'd take all the twee going just to hurry this shit to some kind of closure.

Faust, yes. Yes, you did.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

If I were GRRM I'd be burned out by all the bullshit 'fans' and the crap they come up with, by now. Writing is a creative process and it's hard to be creative when people are shitting on you or screaming at you all the time, in the name of 'appreciating' your work. And not only even all of your work, just one facet that has caught on. And fuck you if you do anything else, at all, ever. It doesn't matter anymore because it belongs to them, not you. And by God, fuck you in the face with a hatchet if you get in the way of the fans' next fix.

I can't imagine why more artists aren't jumping on this joyride of win.

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

So, Netflix summaries kinda screwed up...with hilarious results.

What the hell?

It's a bug on Netflix where if you scroll backwards through it's selection it carries over the last part of the previously read summary and mixes it up with the current one...WITH HILARIOUS RESULTS!

[Junkenstein]

Also impressively long books are less impressive when big chunks are lists of shit. Let's just say the bad relationship with fans started a long time ago and it's probably only going to get nastier. Neither side is particularly blameless but his various responses / screaming hissy fits over the years burnt out a lot of good will. Most associated fan sites have hilariously bad reputations for censorship, bans, sudden immediate and arbitrary rules etc, etc.

It's a ball of shit and I'm just happy I'm likely to see the conclusion before I die.