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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Discipline
« on: March 27, 2014, 03:05:18 pm »
Self discipline is the only form of discipline I personally am able to comply with. Any external order will be processed as a suggestion. My complicity will be depend upon my immediate strategy and goals. Maybe I obey. Maybe I fool the authority into thinking I've obeyed. Maybe I raise a middle finger or a fist. Depends on the situation but what I'm not conditioned to do is just obey because it's an order. I somehow managed to dodge that particular indoctrination. I'm often appalled by the behaviour of the ones who didn't but not always - it's a backdoor mind hack after all - sometimes it can be exploited for profit and/or lulz 

As far as I'm aware, I'm the only serious occupational hazard at my workplace

Or Kill Me / Re: Why Paganism is Crap, parts I-V
« on: March 26, 2014, 10:30:35 pm »
It depends on how sincere you are.

Obvious, but needed to be said.

Also, do you really want to do a ritual designed to get the Goddess of Strife to notice you?
If i weren't sincere about doing a discordian ritual, i would make up some ridiculous nonsense in order to take the piss out of them.
 If I were sincere about doing a discordian ritual, i would make up some ridiculous nonsense in order to -WHOOPS I'VE GONE CROSSEYED

I'd be thinking of ways to sik the law of fives on 'em

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Today's LessWrong moment
« on: March 26, 2014, 09:30:25 pm »
If you want to approach arguing, from a win/lose perspective, then it makes more sense to me to turn the traditional paradigm on it's head.

We're arguing, you convince me I'm wrong - I win (I've just received a software upgrade)

I convince you that you're wrong - You win

Unfortunately, it rarely works out that way on account of primate ego/threat response :kingmeh:
I hadn't considered that losing was an option in an argument. And i also hadn't considered the ego/threat response.
Consider that considered and nwo i consider your reversed perspective superior.

HAHA! I WIN!  :lulz:

The Richard Nixon school of ballet and the arts / Re: I Write Like....
« on: March 26, 2014, 09:09:27 pm »
Cool! I just scored a Stephen King for Conversations from Hell pt.1

Unfortunately it kinda went downhill from there  :oops:

Angelspit are kind of limp and sucky for my taste. But this one time they got remixed by Combichrist I just happen to have a kayak video with 110% soundtrack Tune makes me want to bite the head off a seal cub!

You entering into some kind of settling down period, viking?

Yup - definitely popcorn and yucks. Pull up a ringside seat and warm up them mandibles :lulz:

So I'm trawling though old photobucket shit and I came across this. Of all the Baby Jesus shit I ever did - this is the one that still has the capacity to make me laugh.

They're quite obviously trying to produce weaponized ethics to use against the terrorists  :lulz:

High Weirdness / Re: P3nT's deranged visions of the future
« on: March 26, 2014, 05:40:33 pm »
Supernatural selection Pt2.

So this new science, where is it? If it is consciousness, it's currently at the stage where chemistry was when they still called it alchemy. We are trying to study it, understand it, poke it with a stick...

It's still very much a soft science. It's called psychology or cognitive science. Nobody knows how the fuck it works, when compared to the hard sciences. But then this was also true of all the others. First they're soft, then we start really working the shit out, we start doing increasingly cool stuff with them.

Mainstream utility is proportional to scientific hardness.

So right now consciousness science is very much flaccid, we haven't enough laws and good cohesive theory to really harness the power of cognition but we're progressing on that vector. We've noted a lot of cause and effect shit. Sooner or later some smart arse will come up with a periodic table of sentiments or whatever...

Meanwhile the actual phenomena itself is still in it's infancy. Think of how long it was before the last one got going. Biology. From single celled, to  eukaryote and all the way up. Took fucking donkeys! Well consciousness has only really just gotten started. We are arguably the highest form of consciousness currently resident in this corner of the galaxy and, in the grand scheme of things, we the consciousness equivalent of the amoeba.

Whilst we're comparing consciousness to the platforms that evolved before it, how about we take another look at that common thread that I was discussing earlier - complexity. The atoms clumped together, then the chemicals clumped together, then the cells got in on the act. Gonna go out on a limb here - maybe consciousnesses are somewhere along the road to clumping together.

Whooooa  :crackhead:

Any early indicators that something like this might be in the pipeline?

Societies? Corporations? Offloading cognitive function to technology? Using technology to enhance cognitive function? If we're suddenly demoted to cells in some cosmic megabrain how does it work? Will we even know it's happening? Maybe it's happening already? :tinfoilhat: It's tempting to ask whether the cells in our bodies are aware of us but the logic doesn't carry. Our cells are not consciously aware of anything. We are. How do conscious components interface with the meta conscious machine?

I'm struck by the parallels with current biotech. Lot of pundits saying it's now an information technology. Consciousness, too would seem to lend itself naturally to an IT approach. If we're going to clump together we need networks, bandwidth, communication protocols, storage, subroutines...

In case you're still wondering, yes - I think I'm talking about the Borg.

Don't get me wrong, I fucking love philosophy but I do have a problem in that it comes across sometimes as science. Even the word "Metaphysics" has physics in it but it's not science, it's art. We'd do well to remember that, imho.

The Richard Nixon school of ballet and the arts / Re: I Write Like....
« on: March 26, 2014, 04:09:02 pm »
This is an awesome way to pimp your work if you're into self promotion or publishing

"It's like reading J.K. Rowling" --  8)

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