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You want to get rid of targetted search results, I'll fight it all the way. I remember how long I used to spend on google wading through pages upon pages of bullshit that had nothing to do with my query, just because a couple of words were the same. Fuck that noise.

Have a think about this

Roof’s radicalization began, as he later wrote in an online manifesto, when he typed the words “black on White crime” into Google and found what he described as “pages upon pages of these brutal black on White murders.”

So before he even looked at google he was interested in "Black on white crime" The problem here is not google doing what it's for and searching the internet on a user's behalf. That's just a f'kin scapegoat. Why is a 20 year old redneck typing "black on white crime" into a search engine in the first place? Pretty sure the real problem lies at the bottom of that particular rabbit hole. Why did "Council of Conservative Citizens" score so high on pagerank? That's somewhere else to have a dig. An indexing service that scans a trillion pages a second and takes me straight to the information I want to find? Yeah, do me a favour and leave that shit the fuck alone.

Bring and Brag / Re: P3nT's Shoops
« on: February 01, 2017, 11:36:04 pm »
Last couple of days worth.

Google is fine, it's doing what it's designed to do and it gets better at it day on day. Users, on the other hand, are as wonky as they've always been. Fake news and polarised opinions aren't new. That's how it's always been. Difference is now it's dynamic and interactive. The internet gives more opportunity for dissenting opinions to your pet worldview to be encountered, not less. The other side of the coin = adherents to your pet worldview can group together much more easily and ramble on about how the world would be just fucking ticketty if they could convince everyone to "come here and listen to the poets of the cause wax lyrical".

You know me and ideologies - fuck the lot of them. Even the "good" ones. Same shit. Double edged sword. Only this time I fall on the - more harm than they're worth - side of the debate. It's the internet, you can disagree if you like and tell me why I'm the lowest form of scum. I call that net progress. Room for improvement? Sure. There's probably always gonna be room for improvement. All I'm saying is that if you want to stop people only reading things and discussing things with people that support their pet worldview, google is the least of your worries.

Anyway, you can rest assured google will be on it. Just like Facebook are on it with the fake news thing. It's easy to criticise those guys or those corporate behemoths for the bad things they've gotten up to but that's just one edge of the sword. We wouldn't be where we are right now without the efforts of them and others like them. The world is connected. We are connected to information and to each other in a way we've never been before as a species. The potential is off the charts but, as usual, we're hanging out in little enclaves and pointing fingers at those "inhuman -------'s who just need kicked in the teeth harder and they'll come around to our way of thinking".

If I was forced to choose between trusting Sergey and Larry and trusting the fucking united states government to bring us closer to resolving any issues relating to this topic or others like it? Come on. Srsly?  :lulz:

Nothing horrible about it. Be f'kin miserable, we die anyway. That's horror right there.

If anyone's basic attitude is "other people's ignorance/stupidity is not my problem", that's fine. Not everyone has to decide that the health of human social structure is their problem (though if it stops working, it becomes everyone's problem unpleasantly quickly). But I decided that I wanted a career that supports that social scaffolding, so it is, in fact, my problem, because I'm five years and six figures of other people's money into making it my problem. When you accept that much funding on the premise that you're gonna do something to help society, you damn well better hold up your end of the bargain.

Yeah, I wish you every success. Sincerely. Me, I got nothing. Not even the first idea how to fix this clusterfuck of a civilisation. Overall, I think things might actually be improving but we're kinda exposed here, floating about in space next to a gigantic nuclear reactor, at the mercy of any passing asteroid or ideological kamikaze movement, programmed to die  regardless of if we do everything right or not.

Maybe that's just selfish justification on my part. I figure I've got another good decade in me at best then splat. From experience I know just how fast a decade blinks past. Maybe the world gets better, maybe it doesn't. Maybe I'll be around to see it. Maybe not. Lot of hysterical freaks always yelling about the end of the world. It's some special needs case in the whitehouse this week. Be something else next. If there's a next.

Me, I'm having as much fun as I can get my hands on, for as long as I have hands to get it with. Too busy enjoying myself to freak out about trivial bullshit like the end of the world. As for google and facebook and all the rest, the cloud has the capacity to be a mental prosthetic, same as any information technology, right back to ink on paper. There was a time when the only book was the bible and only the priests could read it.

Bring and Brag / Re: P3nT's Shoops
« on: January 30, 2017, 11:43:57 pm »

Invented a way of "tricking" multiple lightsources for this pic

Making of timelapse

Pent, this is why reasonable governments regulate industry. That is literally the point of laws and regulations in society. Because monkeys are pretty bad at taking care of ourselves and making rational decisions as individuals, but we tend to do better when we have social supports and constraints that act as a scaffolding to support reason.


Google is a pretty new phenomenon, I'd be inclined to give them the opportunity to fix this newfound problem with their service. It would appear that making the sum of all human knowledge instantly available to all humans isn't as straightforward as it sounds on paper. Turns out there's a weak link in the chain and fixing this requires adjusting all the other links in the chain to compensate.

Coincidentally, this is the reason most software engineers fucking loathe end users. :argh!:

"fragile minds can be shaped by the algorithm that powers Google Search."

Another attempt to blame something for the fact that human compute is piss poor on a good day. It's always google or facebook or television or rock'n'roll or magazines promoting waif-like models...

If you examine everything except the problem, don't be surprised when your solutions don't fix it. :roll:

So you're saying the problem isn't Google/Facebook whatever enabling an echo chamber of search results but that humans (in general) are too myopic to see that they're being shown only one side of the story?

Precisely. Human skull meat does not process logical reasoning by design. Out the box it's basically nothing more than a prejudice and bias engine. When you look at how it was developed it's pretty obvious why this is so but most people don't look. They just prejudice and bias their way through life constantly patting themselves on the back for how good they are. Thinking rationally is fucking hard work. It's like trying to change a fuse with a paintbrush, you're using a tool that wasn't designed for that job. However our fragile egos demand that we are the greatest talking monkey that ever walked the earth so most of us are inclined to blame the fusebox and not the dumb bastard waving the brush at it.

"fragile minds can be shaped by the algorithm that powers Google Search."

Another attempt to blame something for the fact that human compute is piss poor on a good day. It's always google or facebook or television or rock'n'roll or magazines promoting waif-like models...

If you examine everything except the problem, don't be surprised when your solutions don't fix it. :roll:

I've think we have laws in scotland. Nobody really bothers much with them, tho.

Techmology and Scientism / Re: Weekly Science Headlines
« on: January 28, 2017, 12:28:51 am »
Yeah, was the impression I got. Still, room temp superconductor. Gotta be a few uses for that if they can figure it out.  :fap:

Techmology and Scientism / Re: Weekly Science Headlines
« on: January 27, 2017, 10:14:33 am »

I heard about this. Hope it comes to something. Would be nice after the complete fucking letdown graphene turned out to be. Yay we haz amazing new thing, only problem, it's impossible to make :argh!:

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: January 27, 2017, 10:08:53 am »
Of course there'll be an election in 2018. It'll be yuuuge. All six surviving americans will vote. 100% turnout. Biggest percentage voter turnout in history. Best election ever.

His favorite childhood dog was there, too, back from the farm where he still lives to this day.

I was just about keeping my shit together until I read that part, now there are tears running down my face and I can't breathe properly  :lulz:

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