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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Early meditations on Mind
« on: November 14, 2008, 04:40:33 pm »
Alex is a half arsed american experiment. Here in scotland we do it much better


Scotland wins everything forever.

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Early meditations on Mind
« on: November 14, 2008, 04:49:02 am »
I'd just like to say that although my cat was certainly not some sort of animal prodigy, or above-average intelligence in every way, he still survived for 18 years as an indoor-outdoor cat and didn't afraid of anything. Loyal as a dog, even if he had no real notion of pack mentality.

Misses that lovable old crank

Aneristic Illusions / Re: Indecision 08 Wingnut thread
« on: November 14, 2008, 04:42:47 am »
Bush said he would invest in hookers and blow for his Texas ranch when he hands over the presidency Jan. 20, and he'll finally get around to burning those books in the library so he can use it to stash more weed.

Principia Discussion / Re: Dumb question about SSOOKN...
« on: November 14, 2008, 03:30:46 am »

Discordian Recipes / Re: Turkish Coffee
« on: November 13, 2008, 02:21:19 pm »
I had Turkish coffee when I was in Turkey a few times. I always wondered how to make it, the process didnt seem that hard, but they told me you need a special kind of coffee to do it. which I can imagine, since it seemed to have a special kind of chocolat-ish flavour to it, but that would have been the kardemom, then.

Probably, but the texture of it probably lended it some chocolate-like qualities.

Or Kill Me / Re: Allow Me To Be Perfectly Frank...
« on: November 13, 2008, 02:09:31 am »
OTOH, I'm sure a lot of deeply religious people could actually use some more introspection.

FUCK YOU!  I'm so introspective, I can divine the future in my own feces!


In divination, it's considered cheating when you are, in fact, in control of the future.

The Richard Nixon school of ballet and the arts / Re: RESURRECT THIS POST!
« on: November 13, 2008, 01:59:18 am »
I try to make it worth people's time whenever I resurrect this thread.

Or Kill Me / Re: Allow Me To Be Perfectly Frank...
« on: November 13, 2008, 01:55:14 am »
I think the problem with most "fundamental" questions is that they are just too abstract. A question isn't necessarily meaningful just because it can be asked. Could you recognize "the meaning of life" if you found it, and if you couldn't, how can you look for it? Why spend your time and effort on it when you could direct it towards problems that you actually have reason to think you can solve? I've noticed that I usually find stuff faster if I stop looking anyway...

I quit asking the Question a long time ago and although I'm not 100% sure I'm happier for it, I sure have more time for actually doing stuff.

OTOH, I'm sure a lot of deeply religious people could actually use some more introspection.

Depends on what flavor of nut you're talking about. Some are very introspective, but restrict that introspection to a confined region. I'm going to pull something out of my ass and call it "fractal introspection": they can keep dwelling on the subject deeper and deeper, but they always manage to come up with something that looks basically the same.

Also, nurbledoff: when I see your avatar out of the corner of my eye, I think it's some kind of red badger. Then I look at it directly and realize it's not. :?

I think dolphins just drag people under the water and try to get it in until the person drown.
I don't know how often the dolphins succeed. The papers never say.
how does a dolphin drag something?

With its wang.

Or Kill Me / Re: Tragic
« on: November 13, 2008, 12:37:01 am »
Idiot proof something, and life will give you a better idiot. 


The Richard Nixon school of ballet and the arts / Re: RESURRECT THIS POST!
« on: November 13, 2008, 12:27:47 am »
We skipped October.


Or Kill Me / Re: Dear Sophisticaton
« on: November 13, 2008, 12:08:43 am »
I think he is saving up his rage to tear this place apart on September 23.


« on: November 12, 2008, 11:50:13 pm »

Holy crap.

I don't know what you're talki- *BRZZZZT* YEOW!

Guuuuhhhhhhh.... *drool*


You're absolutely right. I will make a monkey sacrifice of thirteen fucking idiots by midnight tonight.

First off, Cainad, thank you for actually pointing out my contradiction in my original post.  Until you did so, I hadn't even noticed them.  It was indeed very poor wording on my part and my brain was working faster than my hands.

I have never said we should stop thinking along a path, on the contrary, I have stated we should continue to question everything, even what we believe as "facts".  Even things such as gravity has been redefined throughout the ages as our understanding expands and we learn new ways of measuring and calculating.  To accept something an immutable law is to never question its validity despite what new information we learn.  I will never agree to that. As for the whole zombie thing, it was obviously a failed attempt at some humor in a very delicate situation.

Second, you mean to yell me I lost 3 hours of time last night, because you choose to attack my statement instead of asking me to clarify the blatant contradictions in my text.  Part of me wants to scream, but it is being overridden by what logic I have this early in my morning that I should have read through my post a couple more times to make sure my statement was being expressed accurately.  Also, I have never stated I hated science or scientist.  I do, however, have strong issues with people who tell me that what I think is different from what they think and therefore wrong.  Did you even for once think to set your box aside and possibly look at it from a different perspective?  Agree with me or don't, honestly, I don't care, but at least consider the possibility before you sticking your fingers in your ears and scream, "It's not science, it's not science!!!"

Nope. That's one of the benefits of being a Right Reverend.

But seriously, I chose to attack your post because it seemed based on pseudoscience. I didn't elaborate on the contradiction because I had to go to class. :kingmeh:

And of fucking course nothing is an immutable law. Gravity is examined just like any other phenomenon, but to talk about the "energy" of a person's living body persevering as a "soul," based on some claim that people lose 21 grams of mass after death, is more or less equivalent to postulating that we are all being controlled by the psionic powers of a godlike being living in Arizona because someone, somewhere, claims to have produced evidence that telepathy is possible.

It's a hell of a jump. Even if human bodies lose 21 grams after death (and I would have no objections to performing a series of rigorous tests to observe what happens immediately after death), it's pure mental fappery to claim that these 21 grams are soulstuff and therefore a living personality perseveres in some form after death. What evidence is there that it doesn't dissipate into the surrounding environment?

I don't hate wild speculation of this sort, but I have a personal distaste for it and I will strongly support my opinion that it's a waste of time in many cases. If there's one thing human minds are incredibly good at, it's making stuff up to explain phenomena that in turn requires no explanation (see: all mythology ever). I see no value in fabricating new "boxes of perspective" out of whole cloth for anything other than creative or artistic ends. Do it if you want, but don't expect me to see it as anything other than making shit up.

H.P. Lovecraft imagined creatures in his stories that could fly through the medium of "aether," in keeping with the science of the times. That doesn't mean he actually believed such creatures existed or tried to push the idea as anything other than a imaginative story.

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