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Literate Chaotic / Re: I just saw 48 Laws of Power in the bookstore.
« on: November 07, 2008, 03:39:13 am »
FTR, the version included in the Rogue Discordian Collection is the big 'un.

Fact: I have never seen Holy Grail.

It's one of those things that, taken alone, is quite funny but should never ever be watched with fans because they ruin it.


I did my best to keep my mouth shut when Valerie and I saw Spamalot. :p

Yeah, but Meaning of Life doesn't have the same continuity (or whatever you want to call it) that makes Holy Grail the victim of obsessive fan-quoting.

But I certainly agree: Holy Grail was pretty darn coherent, in Monty Python terms. Meaning of Life is very ---> :asplode:

"'Ello, er, can we 'ave your liver?"

Wait, some of these transhumanists want to eliminate Payne from our lives? I... I don't know how I feel about that...

No! Payne must nevar be eliminated, at least not by laem transhumanist bliss-ninnies. Only loss of internets can defeat him.

They already got us back.

You know those insufferable mouth-breathing nerds who can recite Monty Python and the Holy Grail entirely from memory? Yeah.

They got us good.
You're one of those nerds aren't you? Or is that just for The Life of Bryan:lol:

No, I was a Grail Nerd. *hangs head in shame* I still possess most of my evil powers, but I have vowed never to use them unless specifically called for.

England lost two wars against the United States and could quite possibly be speaking German today if it wasn't for North American involvement in World War II. So says the patriotism installed in my brain in school.  :kingmeh:

They'll get us back one day, I'm sure.

They already got us back.

You know those insufferable mouth-breathing nerds who can recite Monty Python and the Holy Grail entirely from memory? Yeah.

They got us good.

Principia Discussion / Re: Subject
« on: November 05, 2008, 08:21:04 pm »
No, no, no,
I was referring to my unnecessary defensiveness instead of being flamed. I was implying it instead of actually performing it.
That was the joke to begin with, right?

There never was a joke.

Internet is serious business.

Principia Discussion / Re: Subject
« on: November 05, 2008, 06:47:36 pm »

The Richard Nixon school of ballet and the arts / Re: Trolls in Party Hats
« on: November 05, 2008, 02:08:27 pm »
Thread = :lulz:

Or Kill Me / Re: ATTN: Mr. President
« on: November 05, 2008, 02:03:42 pm »
Condolences, ECH.

And you're right, Obama better not fuck this up.

Very good article.  I had never seen the term unreality before, but it seems to fit very well.  Racists almost always live in an isolated little bubble where different ideas are intentionally kept out. They are frightened by things are different in any way. They build up an echo chamber around themselves so they don't even have to hear a differing opinion. It is willful ignorance, plain and simple.


Quote from: The Religious Case Against Belief by James Carse, pg 44
...Belief marks the line at which our thinking stops, or, perhaps better, the place where we confine our thinking to a carefully delineated region. Maoists or creationists or jihadists or libertarians take a severely critical view of the world, but they do not step across their created boundaries to take an equally severe view of themselves.

Believers stop their thinking at a designated line only when they refuse to see their shared dependence with disbelievers. They do this even though at some level they are aware that they are doing it--a classic act of willful ignorance. Only by being willfully ignorant do we not acknowledge that, as believers, we have drawn real dialogue with others to a halt. Each of our beliefs is shielded against the damaging scrutiny of others--and ourselves.

This is partly why I think Clark is on to something. Stupidity may not be the reason people confine their thinking to a certain delineated region (in this case, racism and bigotry). Within the confines of what they already believe, they can engage in very deep thinking, as long as their thinking doesn't go outside said region. This is why bigots (and other people with restrictive beliefs) can come up with very elaborate rationalizations for the way they think.

They aren't necessarily stupid to begin with, and they may even do a great deal of thinking within their confining beliefs, but thanks to that confinement they are effectively stupid because they can't/don't think beyond those limits.

Oh, right. *facepalm*

** At this point you may be suspecting that this post is little more than an elaborate attempt to repackage the argument of the book of 1 John in non-sectarian terms. Well, yeah. Did it work?

Yes, I think so. I certainly didn't spot any religious overtones in what Fred Clark wrote, and I find it very thought-provoking. In that sense one could say that he's repackaged it in non-sectarian and also non-declarative terms. He's starting a dialogue on the subject, rather than simply declaring X to be true.

Anyway, Fred Clark might be on to something here. I'll try to add my thoughts once I get a nap in.


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