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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 13, 2018, 02:05:14 am »
Have we talked yet about fosta-sesta, the anti-free-speech bill that this idiot and the republican congress passed in april?

That's the bill that makes it functionally impossible for sex workers to function without a pimp, right?

That's the one.

Furhermore, it also makes most online dating and personals ads sites functionally illegal.

If nothing else says "Go fetch the Jacobins", this does.

It seems that, not to be outdone, the EU has recently proposed an even worse internet censorship bill

http://www.alphr.com/politics/1009470/article-13-EU-what-is-it-copyright
https://saveyourinternet.eu/
https://boingboing.net/2018/06/07/thanks-axel-voss.html
https://www.maketecheasier.com/eu-article-13-copyright-protection-proposal/

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Faustian compact
« on: June 12, 2018, 06:45:20 pm »
The quoted post cnsisted of statements of the form:
Bad thing X happened because of seemingly reasonable concern Y

But it's point was not to justify X but to show that even a reasonable concern can be very very bad if taken too far.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Faustian compact
« on: June 12, 2018, 06:34:33 pm »
Hell no. Trump's actually a good example of what I'm talking about;

That's interesting, because the post I was quoting was basically a collage of Trump-faction talking points.
I think you may have read it backwards. In retrospect I worded it a bit ambiguously. For example the intended point of the statements "McCarthyism and America's slavish devotion to capitalism and greed both derive mostly from people being appalled by communist purges" and "Ayn Rand was a direct reaction to Jospeh Stalin" was not that greed is good, but instead that maybe we should have cared a little bit less about what Stalin was doing (especially since, in retrospect, it turned out that communism was a red herring and Russia is just inherently an authoritarian shithole). The intended point of the statement "USAPATRIOT act came out of people worrying about their safety," was that people are prone to panic; I personally wish that Bush would have just kept on reading that book for the next eight years, because he caused a lot less harm when he was underreacting than he did after he started overreacting. The point of the statements "SOPA was proposed as part of an attempt to protect an industry that employs lots of people," and "concerns about employment cause ludditism" was that if the course of our civilization means that an industry or employment sector dies, then we should let it die, like the lamplighters, carriage drivers, and whalers before them. etc.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 12, 2018, 05:28:20 pm »
I genuinely hope the talks today go well and that Kim isn't leading Trump around by the nose just to renege on anything agreed.

I just hope the talks don't end with a nuclear war. Given that one of them is an insane despot and the other is the leader of North Korea I don't really trust either of them to maintain a cool head and not make things worse.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Faustian compact
« on: June 11, 2018, 07:53:10 pm »
Hell no. Trump's actually a good example of what I'm talking about; he cares so much about the American manufacturing sector that he's willing to fuck over the entire rest of the country in a vain attempt to bring it back from the dead. He thinks it matters where people come from; it doesn't. He thinks it matters what people believe; it doesn't. He thinks that restrooms matter; they don't. He thinks he matters because he's a businessman; businessmen don't matter; they're the lowest class of celebrity; his time as a reality star was more significant, and reality stars are not significant.

The problem (other than Russia and the electoral college, which also need to be handled somehow) is that for whtever reason a certain segment are impressed that he was a businessman, and care whether people have green cards, and worry about a dead and buried sector of the economy, and various other piddling shit like that, instead of not giving a fuck about those things. Personally I think that they should be sedated.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« on: June 11, 2018, 07:38:45 pm »
Elvis, despite everything, is an A-list celebrity, although his impersonators may be C-list. I'm talking about people who professionally impersonate the lead actors in Asylum titles, people who were rejected in the first episode of reality TV shows, people used as examples during presidential election campaigns, the spokespeople for RC-level soda brands, or youtube personalities with 10k subscribers.

That's more D-list. C-list would be like the guy who played Fred Figglehorn

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Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« on: June 11, 2018, 03:20:57 am »
A noir story set in the insular world of professional c-list celebrity impersonators.

A shootout with a team of elvis impersonator hitmen.

That happens in the game Fallout: New Vegas. Except that they're not hitmen. But there is a shootout involving an armed group of Elvis impersonators

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 10, 2018, 07:45:31 pm »
The more tariffs Trump puts on foreign goods, the more likely that is to happen.

I believe the current EU tit-for-tat sanctions on US goods were chosen precisely to affect industries in pro-Trump states.

Excellent!

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Faustian compact
« on: June 10, 2018, 06:41:19 pm »
:lulz:
I suppose the difference is that of which fucks are given?

It makes a difference, but it's less significant than the amount of fucks given. Caring too much about things that are otherwise reasonable or even just to worry about causes problems. The USAPATRIOT act came out of people worrying about their safety, naziism and ethnic strife in places like the middle east and eastern europe and subsaharan africa derive from love of one's cultural heritage, communism and the reign of terror both came from a desire for legal and economic equality, McCarthyism and America's slavish devotion to capitalism and greed both derive mostly from people being appalled by communist purges, Ayn Rand was a direct reaction to Jospeh Stalin, concern over the possibility of children getting injured led to the removal of every piece of playground equipmemt that could possibly compete with videogames for kids' attention and consequently helped fuel America's obesity epidemic, misplaced concerns about children's mental health is causing parents not to vaccinate their kids against diseases that could kill them, islamofascism and christofascism both derive from a desire to save people's souls, Trump was elected by people who were worried about losing their obsolete jobs, FOSTA-SESTA is derived from concerns about people being exploited, SOPA was proposed as part of an attempt to protect an industry that employs lots of people, there have been countless revolutions throughout history which have accomplished nothing except to replace one tyrant with another who is functionally identical (while killing a lot of people in the process), obesity is caused by the combination of lack of famine and enjoyment of one of life's simpler pleasjres, anorexia is caused by being concerned about obesity, strong ethnic identity hinders integration, concerns about employment cause ludditism, tradition is a stumbling block to progress, there are countless people who have killed for love, and liberalism's concerns about feelings and identity have gotten so loud and obnoxious that they're driving people away to Trump and indirectly helping him wreck the country.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 10, 2018, 03:22:50 pm »
What we really need is some kind of global embargo on american made goods. It would either deliver a much needed coup de grace to the american manufacturing sector or at the very least a much needed fuck you to one of the major populations of americans that voted for Trump

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Or Kill Me / The Faustian compact
« on: June 09, 2018, 04:05:47 am »
There are five woes that are innate to the world: Ignorance, Death, Poverty, Disease, and Starvation

To combat these woes, the demon Giving-A-Fuck was conjured. And Giving-A-Fuck did batyle against them and did weaken them, yet only at a terrible price. For with it, Giving-A-Fuck brought into the world every woe other than the primordial five: War, hatred, racism, sexism, lies, toadying, slavery, oppression, mammon, obesity, delusion, fear, panic, grief, imprisonment, execution, vanity, judgementalness, attachment, and too many others to name, and at times it even turned and bolstered the primordial five, bolstering their common forms and creating new ones as well, such as false knowledge where there was once just ignorance.

Be wary of passions and attachments, and make sure you aren't giving too much of a fuck

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Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« on: June 09, 2018, 02:01:10 am »
"The Scramble for Europe" - After a nuclear war devestates the developed world (and also North Korea), the nations of the third world rush and war with each other to claim the newly emptied territories

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 09, 2018, 01:56:27 am »
Have we talked yet about fosta-sesta, the anti-free-speech bill that this idiot and the republican congress passed in april?

That's the bill that makes it functionally impossible for sex workers to function without a pimp, right?

That's the one.

Furhermore, it also makes most online dating and personals ads sites functionally illegal.

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You are far more likely to be yourself if you can be yourself and not have to worry about starving to death or dying of staph infection.
exactly this

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 08, 2018, 11:47:08 pm »
Have we talked yet about fosta-sesta, the anti-free-speech bill that this idiot and the republican congress passed in april?

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